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re: The Witcher 4 Reveal Trailer

Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:19 am to
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 9:19 am to
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Basically the only advantage she would gain from the trials, is the ability to drink the potions that she wouldn't need because of her magic.

Did you ever consider that maybe since her idol/adopted father is Geralt and he went through the trials that she sees it as a completion of her journey to becoming a Witcher that she would also undergo the trials? (thats a rhetorical question, it's clear that thought has never crossed your mind)

There is plenty of evidence of humans undergoing rights of passage that provide no benefits other than as symbolism. The Chambi tribe in Papua New Guinea gets their entire back scarred to resemble a crocodile and its incredibly painful.

I do think Ciri will have a reason for undergoing the trials, but even if it was only for some longing to follow in Geralts footsteps it still wouldnt be unreasonable from her POV, despite Geralts wishes.

This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 9:24 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:21 pm to
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"Can a woman become a witcher"

In the books, Ciri is called a Witcher by Geralt.

She is not a real Witcher, as she didn't go through the trial of grasses. But I doubt she gives a shite.

Only people who want her to really give a shite, are male feminists on the interwebs. It all reeks of "there can be no boys clubs or male spaces. If you want one, you are a chud/incel/misogynist/{insert preferred gender-based insult}"
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:52 pm to
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It all reeks of "there can be no boys clubs or male spaces.

Ciri literally lived at Kaer Morhen in the books.

You have real issues if u think Ciri becoming a witcher has anything to do with taking over male safe spaces by CDPR.

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Only people who want her to really give a shite, are male feminists on the interwebs.

Lmao "people that arent bitching and moaning about a video game character are all male feminists" said by the guy that is gatekeeping a make believe witcher school "ACKSHUALLLY she's not a real witcher"

You are the only one protesting throwing a pussy fit over a video game that is the sequel to what many consider the best video of all time over gender.

Most of us are fine with the decision to make ciri the main character and have no issue with her being a witcher (which she already is, as stated in the books).

Also noticed your post making a new God of War thread about you finally playing the game rather than bumping one of the existing game threads. So youre a bitch and an attention whore apparently.
This post was edited on 6/7/25 at 8:11 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:50 am to
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Not that there’s anything wrong with that
It is what made her character so relatable, before she found out what she could really do.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:55 pm to
Just saw this.

Oof.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:46 pm to
Well, there you go.

I will accept his consent.

My only objection now is that it makes no sense.
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:12 pm to
In everyone’s defense, Sap’s always been very clear that he wrote stories about people and stuck some scaffolding around as set dressing; he wasn’t intentionally building a world. If you pushed too hard in any direction, you’ll knock over the backdrop. I doubt he even remembers the finer point of the lore at this point, in either direction
Posted by BCLA
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:45 pm to
The 3rd game had them do the trial potion to an elf to bring him back to his original form, and the dlc gave Geralt a gas chamber to alter his DNA, so having Ciri undergo the transformation isn't any further from the lore than what the games already did.

They just really need to land the execution and story on why she did.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:57 pm to
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Yeah, it was never stated in the books. People like Roaad made it up and then tried to convince others it was and said you were wrong for stating otherwise despite never being able to provide anything from the text to back it up.

Sapkowski couldve been here posting and telling him he was wrong and he wouldve had none of it. He was convinced he was right because he "knew the books". Guess he didn't know them as well as he thought.
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 10:58 pm to
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The 3rd game had them do the trial potion to an elf to bring him back to his original form, and the dlc gave Geralt a gas chamber to alter his DNA, so having Ciri undergo the transformation isn't any further from the lore than what the games already did. They just really need to land the execution and story on why she did.

I’ve mentioned before that I did a lot of groundwork before playing TW3. I read all of the books, then played TW1 and TW2. With all of that knowledge going in, TW3 was an incredible experience for me, and I remember reading some jackass on Reddit say that TW3 was more fan fiction than canon, and I remember being annoyed as shite by that take.

Then a couple of years later, I read the books again.

And yeah, the games are vastly more fan fiction than canon
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 11:08 pm to
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the games are vastly more fan fiction than canon

Yeah, they made their own stories for the games and only referenced and used the Witcher books world/characters/past.

Only a few more months until the new book releases.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 11:11 pm to
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Only a few more months until the new book releases.

Well frick me sideways; I didn’t even know this was on the way
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 6:34 am to
I just saw that got community noted

Oof

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This post is based on a Reddit post which was plagiarised from another source, with the key point from this post fabricated.

The author of the original post stated that there was no such comment from the witcher creator


ETA: And now the guy deleted the tweet

What have we learned?

This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 7:24 am
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:22 am to
That's hilarious. People on both sides are fighting fiercely for this


I do think it's been established that it's never explicitly stated one way or the other, Sapkowski hasn't come out and argued either side, and that the game lore is a separate thing from the books. I remember Tim Cain discussing Fallout lore, and even through he felt it was the responsible thing to at least respect old lore, he said it's out of his hands now since he doesn't own Fallout anymore, and the lore will be whatever they make it from now on (he's been a fan of what Bethesda has done with the games, just FYI).

Plus, this is a fantasy world, we're not arguing hard science. Unless it's an idiotic Star Wars "somehow Palpatine returned" explanation, it's easy enough to believe that either changes were made or more things learned to change how things work in this universe.



ETA I will say if someone was trying to fabricate a comment from Sabkowski to argue for women witchers, I feel they would have come up with something more definitive than "I don't know, I don't recall ever saying that.....who knows"
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 7:26 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 7:28 am to
He never explicitly states it, because it is made clear from the context.

Even from the fabricated post, he is implying that younger females will die. So now we make the leap that women won't because. . .what?

If survivability of the trial of grasses increased at older ages, Witchers would be made at much older ages. To suggest otherwise is absurd.
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Plus, this is a fantasy world, we're not arguing hard science
But it has to have rules.
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:29 am to
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Plus, this is a fantasy world, we're not arguing hard science. Unless it's an idiotic Star Wars "somehow Palpatine returned" explanation, it's easy enough to believe that either changes were made or more things learned to change how things work in this universe.

The books didnt even explore females attempting the trial, and we only explored one Witcher school out of 3 in the books. It cant be a retcon if it is never established.
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He never explicitly states it, because it is made clear from the context

Are you a woman? If a man wants to make something clear they state it. They dont just drop hints and assume everyone will figure out exactly what they mean from a sea of tidbits.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 8:37 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:22 am to
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"I don't know, I don't recall ever saying that.....who knows"
but that wasn't the quote, the quote was essentially "I never said it wasn't possible, that was other people. I talk with CDPR, and am cool with their shite."
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 9:23 am
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 11:39 am to
Posted by caro81
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 2:07 pm to
what was the twitter link? gone now.
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