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re: The PS5 Pro coming 11/7 at $699

Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:05 am to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:05 am to
Sooo many base PS5's on eBay already. A week ago they were $400 now you can find them for as low as $325.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86264 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:47 am to
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One day you guys will realize that all you have to do is buy a good PC right now and in 4 years you won't be dropping another $780 for another PS4/Xbox


This is prob half true, and even less true years ago considering computers get outdated pretty quickly.

I see you guys scrambling to find graphics cards like people were ps5s. I see people asking all the time if their rig is good enough to run x game.

I dont have to ask if my ps5 is good enough to run a ps5 game.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:20 am to
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One day you guys will realize that all you have to do is buy a good PC right now and in 4 years you won't be dropping another $780 for another PS4/Xbox



How much does a "good PC" cost roughly?
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
17078 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:57 am to
My PC still gets it done and was built in January 2019. Probably paid around $1K for the parts - but cannot recall exactly.

Is starting to show its age though.

With that being said, there is something inherently different about console gaming versus PC gaming. Sometimes it is nice just to sit on the couch to play games.. which I don't do anymore really, and haven't since I switched to PC close to 10 years ago. There are times I want to play something, but absolutely do not want to be sitting at my computer desk.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:03 am to
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With that being said, there is something inherently different about console gaming versus PC gaming. Sometimes it is nice just to sit on the couch to play games..


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There are times I want to play something, but absolutely do not want to be sitting at my computer desk.


This 100%. I have a ~$5500 PC and I still play most games on console. How retarded.

If I have a shite day at work and I'm tired, I promise you I'm not sitting at that PC to play Probably gonna try out Moonlight to cast my PC to my 77" OLED for couch pc with a controller and see how that is
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
11435 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:39 am to
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Sometimes it is nice just to sit on the couch to play games


You can do that on PC.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:03 pm to
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This is prob half true, and even less true years ago considering computers get outdated pretty quickly. I see you guys scrambling to find graphics cards like people were ps5s. I see people asking all the time if their rig is good enough to run x game. I dont have to ask if my ps5 is good enough to run a ps5 game.

Not being able to buy a gpu was pretty much a singular event, during covid. It’s never happened before or since.

As for asking if the PC is powerful enough to play a certain game, that’s a weird flex. At least they can ask if their old hardware will work. If you ask if an older console can play a new game, the answer is generally a flat no
Posted by southpawcock
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:09 pm to
Technically yes, but you have to think most people's PC setups are not allowing for this. Also, controller is just way more relaxing than M/KB.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:01 pm to
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How much does a "good PC" cost roughly?

Obviously depends on how you define good. With that said, I just spec'd out a system on PCPP that would beat the brakes off of a PS5 for $846. And that was building from absolute scratch:

PCPartPicker Part List: LINK

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($123.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Klevv CRAS C910 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Acer Nitro OC Radeon RX 7700 XT 12 GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 3000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.97 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $845.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 14:06 EDT-0400

And when the next generation of consoles come out, you can either just continue playing at slightly reduced settings (because again, this build is significantly more powerful than a PS5), or you could spend about $500, slot in a new GPU, and then beat the absolute brakes off of the PS6 or whatever it might be named.

Plus, you have the universe that is Steam for games. And, you know, you also have a PC to do PC things on
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23540 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Plus, you have the universe that is Steam for games. And, you know, you also have a PC to do PC things on




Not to mention you can play Tomb Raider with Laura Croft naked.....so I've heard.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
11435 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:16 pm to
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Technically yes, but you have to think most people's PC setups are not allowing for this. Also, controller is just way more relaxing than M/KB.


Meh, I don't even consider a comfy-couch type of game that doesn't have controller support.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23540 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:20 pm to
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Probably gonna try out Moonlight to cast my PC to my 77" OLED for couch pc with a controller and see how that is


Where is your PC relative to your TV? You could just drop an HDMI cable. They also do ethernet to hdmi, and wireless hdmi. You have lots of options.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67798 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:35 pm to
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Where is your PC relative to your TV?


Not close.

Apparently Moonlight has imperceptible latency and is mind bogglingly good, so I have high expectations
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
2858 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 3:26 pm to
My problem is I have no idea how to build a PC. What’s the best prebuilt PC that I can order, plug up, and play on my 77 inch TV?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31726 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 3:45 pm to
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My problem is I have no idea how to build a PC. What’s the best prebuilt PC that I can order, plug up, and play on my 77 inch TV?



And I promise we'll help you pick the parts
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86264 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:02 pm to
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As for asking if the PC is powerful enough to play a certain game, that’s a weird flex. At least they can ask if their old hardware will work. If you ask if an older console can play a new game, the answer is generally a flat no


Not everyone is a pc expert wanting to build their own pc.

So keeping with the thread. Saying console people should just go with a pc and not worry about buying a console doesn’t jive when those people would have to worry about upgrading their pc, or buy a new one.


I guess there being a market for consoles is a weird flex.

Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
11435 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Not everyone is a pc expert wanting to build their own pc.



You don't have to be an expert. FFS Linus's 8 y/o daughter built one.

It's just the whole thing up front is scary. Once you gain confidence, you're good.
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
2858 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:09 pm to
How big is the entire thing when built?

Can you just hire someone to build it for you?

How do you buy and play games?
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
3129 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:17 pm to
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How big is the entire thing when built?


Depends on the case and gpu you buy. There are very small form factor PCs. That efficiently use space to shrink the size.



That is a PC.


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Can you just hire someone to build it for you?


Most local PC repair places should be able to be hired to assemble a PC.


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How do you buy and play games?


The two best options are Steam and Xbox’s app/PC gamepass, but there are tons of options like Epic Games Store, GOG… etc.

You simply purchase through the digital store front and download the game and launch the game through the app.

You can also use keyboard and mouse for controls or continue to use your controller (Xbox controller works best on windows PCs)
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 6:19 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31726 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 6:32 pm to
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Not everyone is a pc expert wanting to build their own pc. So keeping with the thread. Saying console people should just go with a pc and not worry about buying a console doesn’t jive when those people would have to worry about upgrading their pc, or buy a new one. I guess there being a market for consoles is a weird flex.

I wish you guys would just stick to the “it’s plug and play” argument and stop migrating to other ones. Because every time the other arguments get disproven, you migrate back to the plug and play argument whether it’s relevant or not
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