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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:30 am to lsutigerdan
Posted on 2/20/25 at 1:30 am to lsutigerdan
GN did not hold back.
Do Not Buy: NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti GPU Absurdity (Benchmarks & Review)
Do Not Buy: NVIDIA RTX 5070 Ti GPU Absurdity (Benchmarks & Review)
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 1:34 am
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Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:36 am to UltimateHog
Yea. The manufacturers and retailers are pricing these cards ridiculously high until the retards and desperate people stop buying at their scalped prices. Once the inventory starts sitting on shelves longer than they like the prices will come back down to around the original msrp.
This will probably take 6+ months.
This will probably take 6+ months.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 12:30 pm to LSUGent
Not even so much the pricing just the lack of any kind of generational gains. This gen suuuucks.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:09 pm to UltimateHog
Sorry, replied to wrong poster. Will try again in next post. lol
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 6:11 pm to LSUGent
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Yea. The manufacturers and retailers are pricing these cards ridiculously high until the retards and desperate people stop buying at their scalped prices. Once the inventory starts sitting on shelves longer than they like the prices will come back down to around the original msrp.
This will probably take 6+ months.
Nvidia will never let this happen. They will choke product until the next series because "stock" and none of us will be able to get what we want. Then, they create a "shortage" for the next series that mainly go to bots and scalpers and we start the cycle all over again. This will never end until manufacturers and retailers actually care about products going to end users. They don't because they only care about sells.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:47 pm to SaintEB
MC here actually has the 5070 Ti in stock for MSRP ($750).
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:05 am to GoGators1995
One 5070ti for $1k and one 5090 for $2.7k here at MC in Marietta.
No thanks.
No thanks.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:28 am to lazlodawg
Ended up signing up for a waiting list for Nvidia on a FE 5080. Not sure if I'll buy it tho.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 3:08 pm to lazlodawg
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One 5070ti for $1k and one 5090 for $2.7k here at MC in Marietta.
The one in Duluth still had some $750 5070 Tis in stock last night. They're probably gone by now though.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:16 am to GoGators1995
The market for used parts and PCs is apparently taken a huge shift in the past week. I had my old PC listed for sale for 4 weeks with only ~50 views per 7 days and maybe a message every 2-3 days about it. Out of nowhere it starts getting ~350 views in the last week and I’m being flooded with messages. The guy that came to get it offered asking price and when I booted it up for him, the CPU started overheating extremely fast. I was shocked being that I’ve never had a single problem with this PC. Guessing the pump decided to go out at the absolute worst time, what are the odds.
The guy didn’t give two shits and was like it’s fine idc. Still gave me asking price and rolled out. I felt terrible ab it but he insisted. Anyways, crazy things going on with the market.
The guy didn’t give two shits and was like it’s fine idc. Still gave me asking price and rolled out. I felt terrible ab it but he insisted. Anyways, crazy things going on with the market.
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:19 am to Dicky
Same thing happened around the 30 series release. Even though the 50 series sucks as a generational uplift from the 40 series, no one bought the 40 series, so you have a ton of people sitting on 20 and 30 series builds that are itching for an upgrade. Makes the entire market fricky, being the average PC user isn’t inclined to build DIY.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:37 pm to Joshjrn
Yeah 4070 non Supers are up to $700 on Ebay now.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:47 pm to GoGators1995
No shite? Time to list mine then.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:53 pm to UltimateHog
Updated:
4060 $299
4060 Ti $407
4070 $625
4070 Super $799
4070 Ti $900
4070 Ti Super $1080
4080 $1000 + $50 shipping
4080 Super $1250 + $20 shipping
4090 $2400 + $11.50 shipping
4060 $299
4060 Ti $407
4070 $625
4070 Super $799
4070 Ti $900
4070 Ti Super $1080
4080 $1000 + $50 shipping
4080 Super $1250 + $20 shipping
4090 $2400 + $11.50 shipping
This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:07 pm to GoGators1995
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Yeah 4070 non Supers are up to $700 on Ebay now.
It's actually the only reason I took a stab at the 5080. I figured if I could sell my 3080 for twice what it was worth before this series release, it makes up for the otherwise shite value.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:00 pm to Joshjrn
Steve just dropped a new video shitting all over NVIDIA 
Posted on 2/25/25 at 7:41 am to lsutigerdan
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Steve just dropped a new video shitting all over NVIDIA
Yeesh, this is the video description
quote:
NVIDIA's RTX 50 series GPUs in the Blackwell family now represent the worst GPU launch we have covered in our history of GPU reviews at GN. It was briefly tied with past AMD and NVIDIA launches for the worst, but now, with the missing ROPs in addition to 12VHPWR issues, fake pricing, a paper launch, unannounced loss of PhysX 32-bit support, driver issues in some scenarios, and more, we crown the RTX 5090, 5080, and 5070 Ti launches as being part of the worst we've seen. Congratulations, NVIDIA.
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:08 am to Joshjrn
Are the new AMD cards worth a crud? I've typically built around AMD GPUs, but I was going to go with Nvidia - (mainly, just to do it but also ray tracing), so I'm not averse to doing it again.
Should we wait for mid-cycle replacements Josh? I'm still going to focus on a 4k build. What expectations should we have for 2025?
Should we wait for mid-cycle replacements Josh? I'm still going to focus on a 4k build. What expectations should we have for 2025?
Posted on 2/25/25 at 9:17 am to Ace Midnight
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Should we wait for mid-cycle replacements Josh? I'm still going to focus on a 4k build. What expectations should we have for 2025?
Newest gen AMD cards release early March. The highest end AMD card will likely be around a 4070ti super in performance, could potentially be higher.
It will have decent ray tracing capability if the leaks are to be believed, but still not on par with Nvidia.
The AMD upscaler is still shite but FSR4 might become at least decent, but in the wake of DLSS4, will likely still be inferior.
If you are gunning for 4k, I’d probably want to get at least a 4080 super or better, but wait on benchmarks for the 9070XT
Posted on 2/25/25 at 10:25 am to Ace Midnight
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Are the new AMD cards worth a crud? I've typically built around AMD GPUs, but I was going to go with Nvidia - (mainly, just to do it but also ray tracing), so I'm not averse to doing it again.
Gent addressed this well. We just don’t know yet what strides AMD is going to make, especially with FSR. Even before DLSS4, DLSS beat FSR pretty handily. Now, it crushes it to an embarrassing degree. If I were planning to play at 4k with RT, which almost mandates upscaling in 2025, I would be very hesitant to move to AMD until we’ve been shown that they’ve caught up with their software suite, especially being they aren’t putting out a halo card that will compete in brute force rendering.
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Should we wait for mid-cycle replacements Josh? I'm still going to focus on a 4k build. What expectations should we have for 2025?
Unless you’re willing to bite the bullet and buy a 5090, I wouldn’t pull the trigger in 2025. I don’t expect a refresh until 2026, and even then, the only thing I would be interested in is a hypothetical 5080ti/Super that uses a slightly cut down 102 die (what the 5090 uses). As long as the 5080whatever is on the 103 die, I don’t think it’s worth investing in as the basis of a 4k build, short of a marked price decrease, which isn’t happening. I’ve resigned myself to likely waiting for the next TSMC die shrink.
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