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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:19 am to
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23336 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:19 am to
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Pretty sure there are less than 1,000 5090s in the country as of now



If you are right, I wouldn't consider that a launch. Feels like a sample.
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2713 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:58 pm to
Trump is meeting with Jensen Huang today. Hopefully Jensen can talk some sense into Trump to carve out exceptions for TSMC chips from Taiwan. Otherwise hardware costs are going to skyrocket.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4516 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 7:51 pm to
I will give Nvidia props for DLSS 4, it's a pretty noticeable improvement.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
10684 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 6:03 am to
Ya, it's really good. DLSS4 performance looks better than DLSS3 quality mode and even better than native in some cases at 4k.

Luckily, the 5080 stock has been awful or I would've fricked around and bought one. I didn't say I tried tho, had it cart a few times at Newegg and BB, but it kicked me out at checkout.

You can overclock the card an additional 10-15% and put it within spitting distance of a 4090.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:11 am to
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Ya, it's really good. DLSS4 performance looks better than DLSS3 quality mode and even better than native in some cases at 4k.

I need Nvidia to unfrick their "override" feature in the app, because yeah, DLSS4 is kind of a sea change. I don't know that native is truly dead, but we're certainly starting to flirt with it. It's honestly the one saving grace of this otherwise very lackluster GPU generation. There are a ton of people on 20 and 30 series cards that are going to get a functional 20-30% "performance increase" out of DLSS4 because they'll be able to move from native to Quality/Balanced or Quality to Balanced/Performance.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:13 am to
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You can overclock the card an additional 10-15% and put it within spitting distance of a 4090.

I'm glad I wasn't off on this. I mentioned in the other thread that I thought the really excellent frame per watt performance of the 5080 was a harbinger for really solid OC/UV performance. Glad to see that's how it shook out.

It's honestly one of the things I miss most about not having upgraded for so long: I was genuinely looking forward to sinking another dozen hours or so into tweaking a new GPU into within an inch of its life
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23336 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 8:28 pm to
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I'm glad I wasn't off on this. I mentioned in the other thread that I thought the really excellent frame per watt performance of the 5080 was a harbinger for really solid OC/UV performance. Glad to see that's how it shook out.



A few reviewers absolutely hate the 5080 and says its a no buy...at all. GamersNexus, Jay, Linus.....Not sure why the hate.

But GN did a video yesterday calling the 5090/5080 a "paper launch" because they cannot find data for more than a few hundred 5090s that would have been available. They tried to buy them through a few of their means and were not able to purchase one. Says it may have been due to the launch being around the Chinese Lunar new year when factories close for months, and were puzzled as to why Nvidia launched at this moment.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 9:04 pm to
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A few reviewers absolutely hate the 5080 and says its a no buy...at all. GamersNexus, Jay, Linus.....Not sure why the hate.

Oh don’t get me wrong, it’s an absolute garbage card. 10% uplift over the previous gen after two years is awful. Needing a significant OC to match the previous generation’s xx90 is awful. I was excited coming into this release, but now I’m probably skipping this generation unless an interesting 5080ti/super comes out on a cut down 102 die.

I just miss fiddling with my card
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4516 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:17 am to
It's disappointing because that was only a problem with the 4060 and 4060 Ti last gen.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23336 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:36 am to
This launch for Nvidia is puzzling.

Any word on 9800x3d stock?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:49 am to
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Any word on 9800x3d stock?

It gets restocked pretty frequently; it just goes back out of stock quickly. Set some alerts and you should be able to pick one up without too much pain.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4516 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:50 am to
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Any word on 9800x3d stock?

Still OOS at MSRP.
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2713 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:39 pm to
Warning to anyone who have recently built a new PC.

If you installed Windows 11 with certain security updates and a USB stick, you may not get any more security updates warns Mircrosoft

And the fix... reinstall your OS. 3 trillion dollar company by the way
Posted by Dicky
Member since Jun 2017
561 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:53 pm to
I always install windows 10 and then upgrade from there. Idk why but that’s just the way I do it. I guess I’m safe from this?
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
56895 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 9:31 am to
What is a good beginner pre built PC?

I don’t need anything fancy at all, I just a rig that will play games well and I can use a browser on it.

Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2713 posts
Posted on 2/9/25 at 6:40 pm to
What’s your budget? Do you want to play the latest popular games with ray tracing?
Posted by lsutigerdan
Member since Jan 2006
2000 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:26 am to
Steve from Gamers Nexus has me scared to death of ever buying a prebuilt.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
29859 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 7:55 am to
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Steve from Gamers Nexus has me scared to death of ever buying a prebuilt.

The problem with buying a good prebuilt is the only way you can know you’re getting a good value is:

1. They list the exact sku of every included part, no exceptions
AND
2. You’re competent enough to discern whether that part combination is reasonable/sufficient for your needs
AND
3. You spec it out in PCPP to see what the parts would cost in a vacuum.

And at that point, you might as well just build the fricking thing yourself
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2713 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:32 am to
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And at that point, you might as well just build the fricking thing yourself


The best middle ground is to buy all your parts and then just pay a local PC repair shop to build it for you. Typically will cost you an extra $100 or so, which is cheaper than the premium prebuilt companies ultimately charge you for labor.

Also you have a local person you can call and visit if there are issues with build instead of calling nameless customer service people and dealing with RMA process.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 10:32 am
Posted by lsutigerdan
Member since Jan 2006
2000 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

And at that point, you might as well just build the fricking thing yourself


Yeah, I built my most recent one, about 5-6 years old now. I don't mind spending a small premium for someone competent to build it for me though because of my busy schedule. But as Steve and others have shown, even some of the premium high dollar prebuilt companies have some shitty quality control issues with the assembly, terrible airflow & thermals. I am probably going to build my next one when I can get my hands on a 9800x3d and a 5080, but the idea of getting a competent local to assemble it for me sounds like a good option as well.
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