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Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:10 am to LSUGent
It's unfortunately not, the slide on their website says using 4X Frame Generation + DLSS performance mode. That's why he said thanks to AI. 12GB of VRAM is brutal as well but at least it's priced pretty well.
Always too good to be true. Not going over to well on Reddit as a result.
5070TI does seem like the best buy, but damn $200 for basically 4GB of VRAM.
Always too good to be true. Not going over to well on Reddit as a result.
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These performance claims are VERY misleading with them using multi-frame generation in the benchmarks.
Looking at raw compute (TFLOPS) the 5090 is about 105 TFLOPS while the 4090 is 83 TFLOPS so about 25% increase, add in the higher memory bandwidth for G7 memory and I'm predicting about a 33% FPS increase when not using frame gen over a 4090.
The 5080 is 56.3 TFLOPS vs 52 TFLOPS for the 4080 Super, with the faster memory it should be like 15% faster than a 4080 Super.
I may be wrong but a 3090TI is 40 Tflops and the 4070TI is 40 TFLOPS and they perform very similarly so I see no reason why this math won't carry over to the next gen.
The 5070TI looks like a pretty good deal at 75% the price of the 5080 while having 83% of the cuda cores and the same amount of VRAM.
5070TI does seem like the best buy, but damn $200 for basically 4GB of VRAM.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 1:12 am
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:22 am to UltimateHog
Ya, it'll only match the 4090 with games that have mfg.
It also has more cores and memory bandwidth. It should be slightly faster than a 4080 super. I'll probably get that one.
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5070TI does seem like the best buy, but damn $200 for basically 4GB of VRAM
It also has more cores and memory bandwidth. It should be slightly faster than a 4080 super. I'll probably get that one.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:36 am to hoojy
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It also has more cores and memory bandwidth. It should be slightly faster than a 4080 super. I'll probably get that one.
Yes which will net you 10-15% performance increase over the 5070, still for $200 more not great but definitely still the best buy.
If the 5070 was 16GB VRAM I'm not sure many would buy the TI variant so they stuck it with a terrible 12GB and gave a wild marketing pitch that it's equal to the 4090 until you read the fine print about DLSS4 Perf Mode + FG4.
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They used such slimey language to cram out all this bs in a way they can’t be called on for false advertising.
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That's actually very disappointing performance increase gen on gen especially more so for 5090 as it also a $500 price increase from 4090.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:42 am to UltimateHog
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If the 5070 was 16GB VRAM I'm not sure many would buy the TI variant so they stuck it with a terrible 12GB and gave a wild marketing pitch that it's equal to the 4090 until you read the fine print about DLSS4 Perf Mode + FG4.
They would've had to make the 5070 a further cut down model of the 5080 to do that. If you're wanting more memory, Hynix and Samsung should be really close to releasing 3gb modules. Nvidia will probably do a 18gb 5070 in the future.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:49 am to hoojy
Yeah I wouldn't buy a 12GB card these days, hasn't been enough for the top games for the last couple years already so 5070TI makes the most sense for the future and best price+performance it seems.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:00 am to UltimateHog
Free Game; Forgive Me Father on steam.
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:55 am to hoojy
Very nice of you. Already own it but haven't played yet. Love Boomer Shooters. Someone here will enjoy
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:22 am to Carson123987
Biggest question I have is how much will it set me back to upgrade from my 4080 Super? (kinda kidding.....maybe)
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:25 am to SaintEB
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Biggest question I have is how much will it set me back to upgrade from my 4080 Super? (kinda kidding.....maybe)
You'll likely get around $600-700 on the used market for the 4080s.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:47 pm to SaintEB
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Biggest question I have is how much will it set me back to upgrade from my 4080 Super? (kinda kidding.....maybe)
Used prices get really, really fricky around new release time. They tend to go down the closer we get to release day, then either crash or skyrocket depending on availability of the new gen.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:53 am to Joshjrn
Josh - anything exciting to watch for in the coming months for those 4k systems we might build this year?
I'm going to get my desk situation squared away first, but I'm watching for new display launches.
I'm going to get my desk situation squared away first, but I'm watching for new display launches.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:35 pm to Ace Midnight
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Josh - anything exciting to watch for in the coming months for those 4k systems we might build this year? I'm going to get my desk situation squared away first, but I'm watching for new display launches.
Not for me, but that just depends on your target. I’m not looking to move to 4k until the hardware can legit push 90fps+ at high settings, RT, etc. But short of there being a big negative surprise, I’ll likely be buying my “last 1440uw” card this gen, then holding out until 5k2k matures more.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:47 pm to Joshjrn
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I’m not looking to move to 4k until the hardware can legit push 90fps+ at high settings, RT, etc.
I'm getting concerned they aren't going to really do it, just "framegen" it and call it a day. Now, I'm a 100% single player only, so at the end of the day, gaming "experience" is more important to me than any perceived/actual competitive edge I might get from higher framerates for various games, so it may be irrelevant (to me).
I misunderstood your intention. I thought you said you had "built" your last 1440 and were waiting for a 4k.
I may have to go forward without you -
(probably not, though, have to get this desk thing sorted first).This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:56 pm to Ace Midnight
Nah, plan was to buy one more 1440uw gpu and then see whether that started CPU limiting me. If so, consider a full system build in which the system other than the GPU would be my future 5k2k system. But that last bit is what likely threw you.
Posted on 1/23/25 at 11:21 pm to Joshjrn
Updated DLSS model looks incredibly good.
It’s less performative than the original CNN model, but it’s worth it for improvement in visuals and removal of artifacts.
It’s less performative than the original CNN model, but it’s worth it for improvement in visuals and removal of artifacts.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 8:05 am to LSUGent
Like I mentioned in the other thread, people have definitely been gushing over it. I’m hoping major reviewers release content on it before the 30th. HUB at least has said they are.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:24 am to Joshjrn
Deus Ex GOTY edition for GOG for whoever wants.
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:04 am to hoojy
Top 5 game all time
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:46 pm to Carson123987
Holy frick
Nvidia’s $465bn rout biggest in US stock market history, as DeepSeek sparks US tech sell-off – as it happened
Nvidia’s $465bn rout biggest in US stock market history, as DeepSeek sparks US tech sell-off – as it happened
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A sell-off of global technology shares has wiped up to $1 trillion off US stock markets, with the US chipmaker Nvidia falling more than 13%, and losing $465bn off its market value – the biggest such loss in US market history.
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