re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Steve just dropped a new video shitting all over NVIDIA

Are the new AMD cards worth a crud? I've typically built around AMD GPUs, but I was going to go with Nvidia - (mainly, just to do it but also ray tracing), so I'm not averse to doing it again.

Should we wait for mid-cycle replacements Josh? I'm still going to focus on a 4k build. What expectations should we have for 2025?

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Are the new AMD cards worth a crud? I've typically built around AMD GPUs, but I was going to go with Nvidia - (mainly, just to do it but also ray tracing), so I'm not averse to doing it again.

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Gent addressed this well. We just don’t know yet what strides AMD is going to make, especially with FSR. Even before DLSS4, DLSS beat FSR pretty handily. Now, it crushes it to an embarrassing degree. If I were planning to play at 4k with RT, which almost mandates upscaling in 2025, I would be very hesitant to move to AMD until we’ve been shown that they’ve caught up with their software suite, especially being they aren’t putting out a halo card that will compete in brute force rendering.

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Should we wait for mid-cycle replacements Josh? I'm still going to focus on a 4k build. What expectations should we have for 2025?

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Unless you’re willing to bite the bullet and buy a 5090, I wouldn’t pull the trigger in 2025. I don’t expect a refresh until 2026, and even then, the only thing I would be interested in is a hypothetical 5080ti/Super that uses a slightly cut down 102 die (what the 5090 uses). As long as the 5080whatever is on the 103 die, I don’t think it’s worth investing in as the basis of a 4k build, short of a marked price decrease, which isn’t happening. I’ve resigned myself to likely waiting for the next TSMC die shrink.

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You and me in 2028: "Just wait until next year."

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Quite possible

It comes down to what people need. And I know that sounds odd to say about a product no one actually needs, but still. Do I want to buy a new card so I can play Phantom Liberty straight up with my cock out? Yes, yes I do. Do I also have, literally, tens of thousands of hours of games sitting in my backlog that I can play, right now with my 3080, cock out? Yes, yes I do.

And not just random indy shite. I have full blown AAA titles just sitting there waiting to be played, all of which will perform great on the hardware I have.

But that’s on a 3080. If someone has been sitting on a 2070 Super for over half a decade and they are finding they just aren’t enjoying the experience anymore, who cares what the generational uplift is? Whatever card you buy will uplift the shite out of your current gaming experience, and that’s really all that matters.

Just don’t spend $1k on a 5070ti

Now that the big rush is over, I’ll start posting about GPU info on here instead of the dedicated thread. Anywho, this is what I posted a few days ago:

$600 9700xt, $550 9700.

I think the 9700 is DOA, but the 9700xt is mildly interesting if: it actually has the claimed rasterization parity with the 5070ti and you mostly play competitive games below 4k/without RT/etc OR if AMD has made actual strides with RT and/or upscaling. We’ll see when reviews come out, but it’s at least not terrible news.

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5070 reviews are predictably brutal, and a lot of hints to "just wait until tomorrow" for the AMD reviews. A lot of optimism that the 9070XT could be best buy of this gen.

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Yup. Still don’t know that it’s going to be a good buy, but potentially the best, at least within the constraints of the caveats I gave above. Because of AMD’s current shortfalls with upscaling and RT, it doesn’t have enough raw power to tempt me due to my gaming preferences, but for someone who games like you, I think it’s potentially very viable. We’ll see tomorrow.

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Yep, if I can max out this 1440/360hz OLED on my FPS games and play the occasional Elden Ring or Sekiro type stuff comfortably on my 4k/144, I'm perfectly happy.

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I don’t think you’ll actually be able to do that, but you’ll be closer than your 3080 can currently get you

Still don’t think you’ll quite get there, but I admit that I forgot you play at potato settings

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Just bought my first gaming laptop ever. I’m excited to get into PC gaming, mainly for mods of classics I never got a chance to play, such as Mass Effect and the New Vegas DLCs. Should this laptop last me a while with these specs? NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU 8 GB GDDR6 AMD Ryzen 9 8945HS 16GB Memory 1 TB PCIe SSD 15.6" 1920 x 1080 IPS-Level 144Hz 45% NTSC 14.13" x 9.99" x 0.85" 4.10 lbs. 1 x HDMI 2.1 (8K@60Hz/4K@120Hz) 1 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C w/ DP1.4 3 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A With the $200 MSI rebate, it cost me about $730.

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If you’re primarily looking to work through your backlog, it will basically last forever. And while I don’t keep up with the laptop versions of GPUs, I have to think you should be able to comfortably play a ton of modern titles at 1080p as long as aren’t trying to push into RT.

You’ve got thousands of hours of fun ahead of you, mate. Enjoy