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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:48 pm to cwil1
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:48 pm to cwil1
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I was just saying, you can't predict hardware or gaming's future. No one knows what games will be like in just 3 years. I recall in 2020 ''8gb of VRAM will be fine for years''. Didn't happen. CPU's could stil only need 6 cores in 5 years, or they could need 12, we just don't know. The best approach is to build the best PC you can. For your budget. And enjoy it. Trying to buy parts out of ''future-proofing'' is a fools games. The game industry is just so fluid. Did anyone think we'd have frame generation, or FSR just 5-6 years ago? Or DLSS and other upscalers? People with older cards are now hitting crazy FPS. With FSR. Something unimagineable just a few years ago.
8GB of VRAM was fine for years, as long as you weren't trying to play 4K, and if you have a card of a tier that would have 8GB of VRAM in the last four years, you certainly shouldn't be
But anyway, no one was saying "buy 8GB cards for future proofing". Most people thought that number was fine, but I don't think any reasonable person was expecting it to still be sufficient, say, a decade from then. That's why a lot of discussion about "future proofing" with GPUs revolved around giving AMD a look if you were planning to push to higher resolutions as time moved forward.
As an example of future proofing I'm currently considering for the next GPU gen: like I've mentioned a few times before, my next GPU is planned to be my last GPU before I eventually upgrade from 3440x1440 to 5k2k. As such, I'm planning to keep it for longer than I might normally keep a GPU, as continuing to upgrade simply won't give me marked improvement at my current resolution. Normally, I would never consider the 5090, as it's (likely) going to be stupid expensive. But, being I'm planning to hold onto the card for longer, paying a 50% premium over the price of the 5080 might be worth it to me.
But again, to circle back, this is only because I have a specific plan in mind. People buying a product without a defined plan shouldn't try to future proof, as they will just be tilting at windmills.
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:37 pm to Joshjrn
I think we agree. We're just talking past one another.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:51 pm to cwil1
More emphasizing different points, but I agree 
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:08 pm to Joshjrn
Bought a new monitor today, went with less of a gaming focus since I do a lot of WFH stuff, but after seeing that you can indeed use VRR with the 120 Hz refresh rate and 110 PPI, I went with it.
LINK
Curious to see the new "IPS Black" panel technology that Dell has used on their ultrasharp monitors for the last year or so.
LINK
Curious to see the new "IPS Black" panel technology that Dell has used on their ultrasharp monitors for the last year or so.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:18 pm to boXerrumble
Color gamut looks solid, as do the stand adjustments (which is a horrifically overlooked feature by most people).
I haven’t really kept up with the varying HDR-esque technologies, but when I do come back around to buying a 5k2k, that will be a significant feature I look at.
I haven’t really kept up with the varying HDR-esque technologies, but when I do come back around to buying a 5k2k, that will be a significant feature I look at.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 7:38 am to Joshjrn
Microcenter lets you substitute any mobo and RAM in their bundles now and you still get the discount on the CPU. The mobo (Gigabyte B650 Gaming X Wifi) and RAM (Gskill 2x16gb 6000 CL30) I got with my 7800x3d have been fine but I wish I would've waited until now.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:36 am to GoGators1995
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Microcenter lets you substitute any mobo and RAM in their bundles now and you still get the discount on the CPU. The mobo (Gigabyte B650 Gaming X Wifi) and RAM (Gskill 2x16gb 6000 CL30) I got with my 7800x3d have been fine but I wish I would've waited until now.
That's very high quality information. Hopefully that's not just a temp thing during this lull.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 9:53 pm to Joshjrn
You have to do it online and click on the "Build With It" tab.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 3:40 pm to GoGators1995
I normally wouldn't post console news, but if these rumors are true, it could have a significant impact on PC gaming in the next few years:
Leaker reveals new AMD RDNA4 Ray Tracing features, expected in upcoming PlayStation 5 Pro
RT has been really interesting (if you have the hardware to push it) in PC-centric titles over the last few years, but is either non-existent or an utter afterthought in titles with major console releases, as the consoles required the devs to also use baked in lighting, meaning the devs had to focus most of their time on that. If AMD, and by extension consoles, are moving towards more robust RT support, maybe in anticipation of UE5 going mainstream, we might start seeing mainstream "Control-esque" types of titles that really lean into RT when it comes to environment design.
Leaker reveals new AMD RDNA4 Ray Tracing features, expected in upcoming PlayStation 5 Pro
RT has been really interesting (if you have the hardware to push it) in PC-centric titles over the last few years, but is either non-existent or an utter afterthought in titles with major console releases, as the consoles required the devs to also use baked in lighting, meaning the devs had to focus most of their time on that. If AMD, and by extension consoles, are moving towards more robust RT support, maybe in anticipation of UE5 going mainstream, we might start seeing mainstream "Control-esque" types of titles that really lean into RT when it comes to environment design.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:28 pm to Joshjrn
A 7700XT equivalent PS5 Pro GPU at 4K trying to run RT sounds awful unless consolers still think 30 FPS is okay.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 9:37 pm to UltimateHog
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A 7700XT equivalent PS5 Pro GPU at 4K trying to run RT sounds awful unless consolers still think 30 FPS is okay.
They do. As long as you let them set a "target" resolution and FPS and then hide the actual resolution and FPS from them, they are happy as can be. I got into a bit of a spat a few years ago on here with a console guy who swore up and down that his (insert whichever console here) was better than a high end gaming PC because it could do 4k 120fps. Probably took a dozen posts back and forth before I got him to believe me, kind of, that he wasn't actually getting those numbers because of dynamic graphics settings
Posted on 7/22/24 at 3:54 pm to UltimateHog
How many AMD shares are we still holding???
My first buy was 9$ because of you
My first buy was 9$ because of you
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:15 pm to SpeedyNacho
Would have been better off with NVDA 
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:47 pm to bluebarracuda
Yeahhhh no.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:47 pm to SpeedyNacho
I've sold off about 70%.
AMD bought my acreage in Oregon.
AMD bought my acreage in Oregon.
This post was edited on 7/24/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 7/24/24 at 4:33 pm to UltimateHog
Shocking take from you. Even though I am objectively right
Posted on 7/24/24 at 4:45 pm to bluebarracuda
No, just no.
It's okay to be salty you whiffed though I forgive your ignorance. Not everyone can buy stocks under $2 and watch it win stock of the year each of the next 5 years to $180.
It's okay to be salty you whiffed though I forgive your ignorance. Not everyone can buy stocks under $2 and watch it win stock of the year each of the next 5 years to $180.
This post was edited on 7/24/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:46 am to UltimateHog
Completely ignoring the context to move the goalposts where you want
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:37 am to bluebarracuda
Ryzen launch delayed to Aug 8 and Aug 15: LINK
Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:25 pm to SpeedyNacho
AMD was as low as $2.29 a share in 2013 (before the PS4 and XB1 came out).
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