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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:57 am to
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:57 am to
Up to 600 if necessary
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:12 am to
What are you specs nowadays?

Edit: and what's your current monitor?
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 10:13 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:24 am to
umm think its a 1080p? idk im not home, let me look on amazon and newegg and see if it pops up

rig has the ryzen 7 5800x and the RTX 3070
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:04 pm to
I remember you asking about monitor upgrades in here a while back, didn't know if you ended up getting something.

EFT is such a craptastic running game, I don't know if it's worth to get this monitor since you wont be getting the full 240hz worth, but if you decide to play other games, you'll be in good hands

Samsung G7 1440p 240hz Monitor

You can definitely get a significantly cheaper 1440p/165hz monitor just for EFT for sub $250
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by RATeamWannabe
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:30 pm to
yea never did upgrade, when I moved and tried to set my shite back up, nothing else worked correctly lol so i just stuck with one


got a summer job and will need another monitor running the work stuff while I gayme
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:28 am to
4060Ti 16 GB for $500, with cut down memory bus and CUDA cores from the 3060 Ti.

Lmaoooooo Nvidia has lost it
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:35 am to
Yup, flat out comical. Last gen mid to high end AMD remains the best value choice for mid range gaming at this point.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:02 am to
This makes me feel better about buying the 4070 and that isn't saying much.

AMD is having their 7600 at roughly the same performance as the 4060ti at 330ish.

Wait 6 or months and the prices should come down.

Blame our idiot governments and TSMC.

A wafer will go for a cool 20G at 3nm. Next gen will only be worse.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Next gen will only be worse.


I’m not so sure. I think the purpose of this generation was to move the window a bit, just like the 20 series did. Small upgrade for shite value. Then the 30 series came out and blew the doors off with both performance and value.

As an example, instead of a cut down bullshite 103 die being sold as a 4080 for $1,199, imagine going back to a 102 die for the 5080 and offering it for $999. Is it a worse value than the 3080 was at launch? Sure. Would people wait in line for them? Around the fricking block.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I’m not so sure. I think the purpose of this generation was to move the window a bit, just like the 20 series did. Small upgrade for shite value. Then the 30 series came out and blew the doors off with both performance and value.



Yeah I think the 50 series will be like 30 series too.

The 10 series blew people away.

The 20 series was basically just a "but yeah look at this new RT feature you cant really use" as the only selling point because performance uplift for value was meh.

The 30 series blew people away with raw performance uplift from 20 series.

The 40 series is a mixed bag when you consider the 4080/4090 but everything else for most part has been basically a "well yeah raw performance is barely up at all and value isnt there, but look at frame gen!"

20 series and 40 series have been mostly new "feature" selling points while 10 and 30 series were looked more at as raw performance upgrade selling points.

I feel like the 50 series will go back to big increase in raw performance and be a good value again, especially with it probably releasing during a more struggling economic time once it does hit. Nvidia is certainly getting the message now the mid-range market isnt buying into what they're trying to sell with 40 series inflation.

Like trying to pass off a 4070 class card as a 12 GB 4080 for $900, then canceling that and calling it a 4070 Ti for an astronomical $800 still when last gen was $600. Now a slap in the face to lower mid-market gamers that if you want more than 8 GB of VRAM which is quickly becoming a necessity in some games the entry point for that now is a $500 4060 Ti 16 GB. Meanwhile previous gen 3060 came with 12 GB for $330....and now a 4060 Ti has more memory at $500 than the $600 4070 and $800 4070 Ti

I feel like the 4060 for "only $299" is kind of like a small reprieve they dropped the prive of the base 60 class card from $329 to that, but also took away half your VRAM in the process.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 1:48 pm to
I just got my 4090 in and it’s insane when you have it in your hands. It’s as big as my damn forearm.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:04 pm to
Haha yeah, they are chonky. I remember reviewers early on reminding people to measure their cases, even if it's a full size case, because the card wasn't fitting in some of them
Posted by hoojy
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 7:31 pm to
This shite is so fun to play with.

It's garbage on gaming benchmarks, but it's fun to play with similar components.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/22/23 at 9:22 pm to
Userbench? You're better than this, man
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 7:41 am to
Why? It's fun to see how my components stack up to the same ones.

I already know it's garbage for gaming.

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:35 am to
It’s mostly garbage for everything else too
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 7:46 am to
My opinion on all of the recent Nvidia and AMD released/announcements: they all suck arse from the perspective of price to performance compared to what you can get last gen cards for these days; don't buy them.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 8:48 am to
The only argument I can see for the 4060ti is if you are building or upgrading a brand new SFF PC and you want the 3060ti performance but care a ton about low-power consumption.

Other than that... yikes...

And I still have a 2070 Super in my SFF pc... and I ain't upgrading any time soon.

Maybe AMD surprises us all and the 7700XT/7800XT are magically much better.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/24/23 at 1:37 pm to
7600 dead on arrival

Just saw hardware unboxed review...it's a 6650 XT (about 4-5% faster) for basically the same price ($270 for 7600 vs. $280 for 6650 XT)

You can get 6650 XT's for $280 right now brand new, which with this 7600 release will probably put them down to $250-ish pretty quick...which really would make the 7600 utterly pointless. Same 8 GB of VRAM, very similar performance. They said it should be a $250 maximum product and ideally would be priced at $230 (they also think the 4060 Ti 8 GB is horrifically overpriced and should be $300).

They mentioned originally they did the review the price of the 7600 was supposed to be $300 which they gave really negative feedback on, AMD decided to change price a week before down to $270 which they said is at least taking feedback but still not doing enough with the price. For $30 less ($250) it at least would make sense against the 6650 XT if priced at $280.

Edit - woof, already seeing 6650 XT's for $240-$260 now on pcpart picker. That $270 price for the 7600 going to have to come down fast.
This post was edited on 5/24/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:50 am to
UH wishing he had a piece of the NVDA pie right now
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