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Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Looks like AMD is waking up:

AMD Radeon RX 6950XT drops to $610 prior to GeForce RTX 4070 launch



Saw a 7900 XT for $780 this morning:
ASRock 7900XT at Newegg for $779

Funny how fast thats dropped way below it's $900 MSRP when everyone kind of thought it should have been an ~$800 card to start with as the 7900XTX was $1k
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 3:02 pm to
The one niche use case for the 4070 where it makes sense is people doing brand new itx builds.

Otherwise, I just don’t get paying $599 for that.

The 6950XT right now at $610 is a steal if you’re building a new pc.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 4:36 pm to
RX 6800 now $469 as well. LINK

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Meanwhile, hours after the GeForce RTX 4070 launched, there is still no issue of availability. TechPowerUP reports that out of 19 listed models, 9 are still sold at MSRP directly by NVIDIA or through 3rd party sellers. Furthermore, the more expensive models are not necessarily much faster given the NVIDIA strict limit on manual overclocking of RTX 4070 GPU.


Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/16/23 at 12:25 pm to
I can't remember exactly when, but at some point we had a discussion about upscaling technologies (DLSS/FSR) vs native. I recall trying to encourage the individual to use upscaling, but I was struggling to articulate why. With that said, Hardware Unboxed released a video today doing a deep dive into comparing upscaling technologies against native from a purely visual perspective. While I think the "conclusions" in the individual games are useful, the reason I'm posting it here is that I think the video does an extremely good job showing the types of things to look for when comparing levels of upscaling tech against native. Put another way, graphical issues that one might otherwise just write off as a flaw with the game might be an indication to switch from upscaling to native, or vice versa. Anyway, very good video, in my opinion:

Is DLSS Really "Better Than Native"? - 24 Game Comparison, DLSS 2 vs FSR 2 vs Native
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:47 pm to
Went ahead and bought a 4070. Only like 60 dollars more than a 6800XT. I'll pay the Nvidia tax.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:26 pm to
Any reason you passed on the 6950xt you can currently get for $30-$50 more?
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:34 pm to
Better raster for far less RT and no dlss(yes fsr, but it's inferior). Hard pass. I got an AIB card for MSRP, btw.

I'll pay the Nvidia tax.

Although, the < 1/3 of full die chaps my arse.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:40 pm to
I don’t know that it’s the choice I would have made, but considering your priorities, that makes sense
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 1:43 pm to
Well, ya. Heavy RT is priority atm. RTX remix has came out.

Morrowind at pathtracing level? Yes plz.

Any dx9 games are fair game.

I'll prob frick with cyberpunk a bit as well on the side.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 2:06 pm to
Haha I hear ya. I was eyeing news of the of the impending path traced Half Life 2 release recently.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 3:47 pm to
At these down votes. I wonder who would be doing that?

Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

The one niche use case for the 4070 where it makes sense is people doing brand new itx builds.

Otherwise, I just don’t get paying $599 for that


Agreed, you'd have to be ignorant or a really shitty consumer.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 4:08 pm to
6800XT was going for 530ish. So what's that mean for the Nvdia tax?
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 4:13 pm to
I don't care what any other offering is, giving companies money for bad products and pricing is being a bad consumer and making the problem worse.

Do better.

So don't bitch and complain any more when you're the exact type people are talking about.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 4:15 pm
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

So don't bitch and complain any more when you're the exact type people are talking about.




Explain this. Keep in mind the exact prices from the competitors.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 5:36 pm to
And I'm not even trying to shite on AMD. They do very well in the raster department.

But between DLSS and FSR?
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 5:43 pm to
I’ll genuinely never understand why people feel justified in personally insulting people over something so trivial.
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 5:46 pm to
I4770 K
2400mhz RAM @ 16 gb.
1TB SSD
650 Focus Gold(seasonic) PSU
My trusty old 1080ti.


All for $150 to my brother. It's part birthday present too.
This post was edited on 4/18/23 at 7:26 am
Posted by hoojy
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Posted on 4/18/23 at 1:04 pm to
Old card.

New card.

The main thing is how much quieter the new card is. I barely hear it.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 8:47 am to
Nvidia hinting at a price drop for the 4070 already via $50 rebates to manufacturers which they would expect to pass on to consumer making the base cards $549

LINK

Well, that was short lived. Definitely one of the worst Nvidia cards of all time in terms of people wanting it. Nvidia really didnt read the market well enough there. They can get away with gouging the higher and highest end, but you get into that mid-range and mess with people, well, there you go.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 8:48 am
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