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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:42 am to
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:42 am to
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Ignorant question here but how can you quantify mobo performance


1. VRM Quality
2. VRM Cooling
3. Chipset
4. Features (which seem to drive price more than any of the above)
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:44 am to
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I would be so pissed if Amazon sent me a new CPU in a damn soft mailer. They've been doing this a ton with Ryzen and so many cases of bent and broken pins. What a waste.



Walmart sent my 5600x very well packed in a cardboard box with air-cushion packaging.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:45 am to
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Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite for sure


For $20 less, you can get a B550 Tomahawk from MSI:

LINK

Both are good options.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:47 am to
Yeah, the Elite has a 12 vrm power phase and the tomahawk a 10. Might as well get the better cooled board for the little money. Also has an Intel Lan chip instead of a garbage Realtek.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 8:51 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:59 am to
They both have used options with prime for $30 less too. Shouldn;t have any issues with used AMD boards unlike Intel, those pesky pins.

Even though I did order a Z390 Asrock Taichi used-good from amazon warehouse. 99% chance there are bent pins
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:00 am to
I will take all of this into consideration
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:04 am to
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Also has an Intel Lan chip instead of a garbage Realtek.


Literally my only complaint with the Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AX ITX Board in my build

fricking 2.5G garbage chip and bluetooth disappearing with every BIOS update.

If not for those 2 things, board would be perfect.

Gigabyte supposedly has let Realtek know numerous times about the 2.5G chip issue, and it is driver related but Realtek is dragging their asses on fixing it.

EDIT: BTW, the guy looking for a board for a 5600x, the 10 phase vs 12 is really irrelevant, but yeah, the 12 phase will give him a path forward if he wants to go 5900x/5950x route in future with Overclocking plans.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65761 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:29 pm to
Smart Access Memory benches showing fantastic gains. Great new tech from AMD there.




Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:31 am to
quote:

EDIT: BTW, the guy looking for a board for a 5600x, the 10 phase vs 12 is really irrelevant, but yeah, the 12 phase will give him a path forward if he wants to go 5900x/5950x route in future with Overclocking plans.



Odds of him upgrading any time soon are slim. Him overclocking is even slimmer
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39777 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 7:35 am to
This is true. I have no desire to oc. Just need something I can play minecraft and solitaire on and occasionally chess on facebook with my grandma
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 7:36 am
Posted by Skywalker
St. George
Member since Jul 2010
1248 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 8:47 am to
I have a question about updating the BIOS for a Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite motherboard that has a Ryzen 5. Do you build the PC first and then update or do you hook up the power and update it that way? This is my first father and son build.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 8:57 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:09 am to
Are you updating the bios just to update it? Or are you updating it to swap in another CPU?
Posted by Skywalker
St. George
Member since Jul 2010
1248 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:14 am to
Its a new build. We were told you have to update the bios for the new chip to work Ryzen 5 5600x
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:15 am to
Check your BIOS version. If the current version doesn't support the Ryzen 5XXX series, you will need to update the BIOS using your current Ryzen CPU that you have installed.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:17 am to
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This is true. I have no desire to oc. Just need something I can play minecraft and solitaire on and occasionally chess on facebook with my grandma


If thats really all you're doing any cheap B550 board will do, even a B450 for that matter.

LINK
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:20 am to
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Check your BIOS version. If the current version doesn't support the Ryzen 5XXX series, you will need to update the BIOS using your current Ryzen CPU that you have installed.


And if you don't have a 3xxx ryzen cpu you're pretty much SOL unless you buy one
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:21 am to
Realtek has finally released a BETA driver for their 2.5G LAN chips that is supposed to finally resolve the connection drop issues:

LINK

Driver is from Realtek and should work with any B550/X570 board using their 2.5G chip.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:22 am to
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And if you don't have a 3xxx ryzen cpu you're pretty much SOL unless you buy one



Gigabyte also have BIOS flashback options he could try, if his board supports it.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:24 am to
He said it's a new build, so I'm assuming he's trying to update his bios for the new 5xxx series CPUs to work. He cant update the BIOS unless he has a 3xxx CPU unless something has changed
Posted by Skywalker
St. George
Member since Jul 2010
1248 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 9:24 am to
Everything is still in the box un-opened.

AMD RADIAN RX 6900XT
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite
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