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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:41 pm to
10th gen intel desktop finally hitting today

Anandtech

Reading about some workarounds where you can even overclock now on Non Z boards and even non K SKUs.

Curious to see prices when they hit microcenter
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 6:37 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 3:10 pm to
DOA.
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:55 pm to

USB 4 will fully support DisplayPort 2, including 8K HDR monitors

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Since it also supports the Thunderbolt 3 standard, USB 4 will become a universal connection standard for both smartphones and PCs, supporting things like “docking, gaming, AR/VR HMDs, and professional HDR displays,” VESA said.


Finally. This is very welcome.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:43 am to
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DOA.



I wouldnt say that depending on benchmarks first. In the end Intel still could have a somewhat noticeable lead in gaming, and bringing the i7 line down so much in price could make it a go to chip for gamers.

I will say seems like they are trying some at least to price things better.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/1/20 at 3:09 pm to
I would because it's how it is.

Knocking down $520 to $487 for the same product isn't going to persuade anyone. Not to even mention the requirement for a new motherboard shoots you well past a respectable price target. You'd have to be an idiot to buy one and a new mobo on the last rehash of 14nm.

They will sell like dog shite like last Gen.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 3:25 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 5/2/20 at 6:43 am to
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Since it also supports the Thunderbolt 3 standard, USB 4 will become a universal connection standard for both smartphones and PCs, supporting things like “docking, gaming, AR/VR HMDs, and professional HDR displays,” VESA said.

Yep.

Can't imagine being an Apple user who pays a premium then is forced carrying around 1 cable for 1 device when everything else you own takes USC-C.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 5/2/20 at 2:48 pm to
Just to let you know, feel like I just cheated on my GF, or worse, played with another dog who is not my puppy.

Besides covid stuff driving the market down, right now is a good time to purchase some AMD ahead of the 4000 launch and RDNA2.

Oddly, it is my only tech stock.

Edt: It will drop, esp after lower 2nd quarter figures. Aiming to dump more then, no?
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:08 pm to
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Been getting into F1 2019... Resisting the urge to buy a racing wheel setup

You remember those LG monitors you got from me in around 2012?

If you remember I had 3 for sale. I'd planned on doing nVidia Surround 3xmomitor setup for a racing sim build (Dirt). I've posted pictures, I believe, a long time ago of that setup. I just didn't have the room in at the time for the setup.

However, I do want to build a rig for the new upcoming MS Flight Simulator.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 12:01 am to
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Edt: It will drop, esp after lower 2nd quarter figures. Aiming to dump more then, no?


Probably won't drop much, 2nd quarter with drops are pretty standard with no releases. Dropped in 2019 as well for example.

Revenue is the main thing, and expected up 21% yoy.

So yes, dump more in. ~$100 price target end of 2022 is still very possible.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:16 pm to
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Just to let you know, feel like I just cheated on my GF, or worse, played with another dog who is not my puppy.


Man you going to hell
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 6:38 am to
Yeah, I am..
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 11:50 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Knocking down $520 to $487 for the same product isn't going to persuade anyone. Not to even mention the requirement for a new motherboard shoots you well past a respectable price target. You'd have to be an idiot to buy one and a new mobo on the last rehash of 14nm.



I was talking more how they are pricing the i5/i7 line. The 10700 and 10700k is basically more in line with the 3700x and 3800x short of you having a microcenter near by, and they should easily beat those in gaming by 5-10%. Overclocking non-K chips seems to be an interesting topic as well, although I'm sure Intel will do everything they can to stop that.

I avoided Intel last year for my build due to non-hyperthreaded i5/i7 lines and I wasn't shelling out $500 for a i9-9900k on a dead socket. Seems like they are just headed in a better direction now, obviously thanks to AMD.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 10:10 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/4/20 at 5:52 pm to
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The 10700 and 10700k is basically more in line with the 3700x and 3800x short of you having a microcenter near by, and they should easily beat those in gaming by 5-10%.


Yeah but the problem here is they are a year behind, the 3700X and 3800X are about to be replaced in a few months with the 4000 series so that 5-10% will be gone, the Intel mindshare is long gone by now and everyone is waiting for the new Ryzen.

I would be shocked if Intel sells very many of these, even Intel fans are saying not to buy with 10nm next year and a new mobo required. Just not worth it for the 7th rehash of 14nm.
This post was edited on 5/4/20 at 5:52 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 9:09 am to
Questions, have been busy this week, just read headlines:

1. What is up with AMD?

2. AMD Ryzen, I might purchase for my NAS. Thoughts?

3. Not news, but does anyone ALWAYS have trouble updating LogitechHub? Every update the update seems to "time out" or "fail", leaving the program halfway installed and uninstalled. I then have to manually go delete registry entries and folders, then do a fresh install.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:06 pm to
Remember the issues I had with my mouse?

Well when I copied over my old hard drive to the new ssd the Logitech hub corrupted and won’t respond anymore. Ever since then my old mouse has been fine.

This happened right after I bought a new mouse
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 4:46 pm to
Logitech software is straight AIDs

Half the time the app doesn't even open. Thankfully I have my binds on the mouse internal memory
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 6:22 pm to
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Remember the issues I had with my mouse?

Well when I copied over my old hard drive to the new ssd the Logitech hub corrupted and won’t respond anymore. Ever since then my old mouse has been fine.

Glad i'm not the only one, also glad you found out the problem.

I've been on the verge of reinstalling a fresh Win10 just because I can't figure out why it is happening for every update.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 7:30 am to
For those with ChromeCasts and/or Google Nest Hubs/Homes, any issues with browser tab refreshing?

Since whatever update Google pushed to ChromeCasts and/or Google Chrome, the tab I'm casting from times-out/refreshing every 10-15 seconds. I tried only on 2 W10 laptops and my MainPC.

Did anyone experience a similar issue?

Edt: This is the only thing I can find on the issue, so far.. LINK
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 7:31 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:11 am to
So who is a little ticked AMD ended support for 300/400 series mobos for their zen 3 release? Luckily I got an X570 board last year for my 3600 build, but I considered a B450 board to save a few bucks too. Know someone with a B450 board who is pretty pissed, they have a 2700x and now pretty upset cant go higher than a zen 2 chip.

AMD gave a really weird reason for not supporting at least 400 series boards too with the bios "not being big enough" to add the CPU support for zen 3.

Pretty Intel-esque move by AMD to say they will support AM4 socket for 4 years then basically forcing people with the first 2 year boards to upgrade anyways to get zen 3 support still on AM4. Interesting to see if they go back on this and at least support B450/X470 boards.
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