re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

I'm going to order a Radeon sticker to go over theirs, it makes it look a tad better.

Not with Sapphire no. And yes that's correct, no problems.

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throw some LEDs on it or something

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No.

LEDs I hate this trend. But I'm old.

Edt: I'm becoming a gray beard. Time to start hating everything.



This is just 1yr ago. The gray comes fast. No gray last year.



Edt2: inb4 Devious complains about the dog.

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I like white LED's for accent lighting. 

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I have white LED strips behind every monitor and TV for accent lighting. They are connected to a controller for dimming and power on/off. In addition I have a touch free system to adjust lighting with an light sensor(not just uv) so if my hands are dirty I can swipe and hold to adjust intensity. All controlled with RasPi.

You need to get into SBCs and small projects next UH. You would like it.

Edt: Have an unused hat if your want to try making a controller. I can send. But it's only $40 bucks for that I believe on Amazon.

The one in the pic below is unused since I don't like how hot it gets when not inside a controlled climate. Was going on an outside project but pulled back.

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I'm becoming a gray beard.

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Update on build, it's complete and ready to assemble this coming weekend once RAM, PSU and cooler make it in:

Case: Corsair Crystal Series 680X RGB ($200)
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 850W 80+ Gold ($74)
MoBo: Gigabyte Aorus Elite X570 ($150...$50 off at Microcenter w/ CPU)
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 ($200)
Cooler: Corsair H100i Pro 240mm AIO ($100)
RAM: 2x8 GB DDR4-3200 Corsair LPX Vengeance 15-15-15-36 ($70)
GPU: XFX Radeon 5700 XT ($350...$50 off at Microcetner w/ CPU)
Storage: 512GB Inland Premium NVMe 3.0 x4 M.2 SSD ($40...$20 off at Microcenter with coupon)

Total - $1,184 + tax

Figured down the line switch over to a 3950x once those get slashed way down. Spent a lot on the case, but will probably keep it nearly forever. It's a really really nice case. Not sure if I even need to add an internal mass storage drive, I have a few external and honestly wont keep anything but windows, office and games on this computer. The 5700 XT at $350 was just too good to pass up at microcenter on the $50 off deal with Ryzen 5 3600 or higher. For $150 the board too, it's 12+2 power delivery, kind of nuts in a board that cheap IMO, should be able to handle 16 core.

I've seen some pre-builts with a 5700 XT or RTX 2070 around that price on sale, but sacrifice bigly on case, MoBo, PSU and cooler in those cases from mine. I could have saved $100 on the cooler, $100 on the case getting a still good $100 case, maybe $20 on PSU with a 650w...so could easily do this build very well still for about $964 with stock cooler, or about $1000 with a decent air cooler. P.S. the cooler with the 3600 is a total joke

It is. Don't worry.

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The Wraith Spire not any good?

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The 3600 has Wraith Stealth
LINK

It's literally an inch tall heatsink with no heatpipes, I mean if you could overclock even 100-200mhz all core I'd be a little surprised with this


The Spire is literally like twice the height for the heatsink, it actually cools much closer to Wraith Prism. Just saw a video on Stealth vs. Spire vs. Prism and in gaming it seemed like the Spire and Prism (on an overclocked 2600x) were within 3-4c or so of each other. The Stealth was about 8-10c worse than the SPIRE

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Why are you concerned about OC on a non X?

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Huh? A 3600 and 3600X will overclock to the exact same. The 3600X just comes with slightly higher stock clocks, you're paying $50 more for the slightly better stock clocks and admittedly a much better cooler (but not worth $50 more, you could get a significantly better cooler for $50).

The 3600x and 3800x make little sense in AMD's lineup if you know how to overclock at all.

Not sure why you think the non X is at a disadvantage overclocking (well, when NOT using the crappy included cooler).

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The 3600x doesn't OC at all but the 3600 does?

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No they both overclock, all AMD CPUs are unlocked.

The 3600 and 3600x on even cooling will hit 4.2ghz, one doesnt overclock better than the other.

The $50 premium on the 3600x is so AMD can make a higher margin on the same chip as the 3600, with a cooler that maybe costs them $5 more to make

Basically the 3600x and 3800x is AMD taking 3600 and 3700 chips, slightly pre-overclocking them, and giving the 3600x a better cooler, the The 3800x is truly a mystery why anyone would buy that becuase it even has the same cooler as a 3700x and costs $70 more?

If you have zero intention of overclocking, the 3600x might make sense, but even then you're paying 25% more for maybe 3% better performance overall at stock. So it's not a good value at all.

Tl;DR: The 3600x and 3800x you shouldn't buy