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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:01 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:01 pm to LSU Coyote
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found myself feeling sloppy. I personally need more feedback in a switch
Same. I felt that way with silvers.
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Browns give that to me with resistance at nearly the same actuation time.
I'm browns too. Actuation force is the same as Reds with 45g. Just have a bump to them.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 12:02 pm
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Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:25 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I would also say that internet forum warriors harp on the "advantage" of reds and recommend them to everybody while the pros don't give a shite and do what they like. It's the same for mice
My only issue with you over the years concerns hype. Things that are the loudest (no pun) aren't always best or the collective opinion of a group.
I find the cult of Cherry MX Red Mages are just set on no other substitute for different reasons. They just drown out everything else.
Fyi, M.2 is a form factor. Like say ATX for MOBOs. It describes the physical spec. In this case to ensure compliance of a physical connection for separate system interface to exchange.
It has no relation to performance, that happens with the bus or interface and logic. SATA is an interface, pCIe is an interface. Then a logic controller to know what to do with the bits coming over the interface. So recently we moved mainly for protocols like IDE and AHCI to NVMe becoming common. There are other layers like MLC, etc but yeah.
I just see this posted all over the internet so much talking about performance. From major ppl too.
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PCIe 4.0 m.2 SSD
That doesn't tell me anything but it is a 10 lane highway compared to a 2 lane highway. The CPU will be capable but storage wise it says nothing. I know nothing about the controller, protocol much less the arrangement within the cell. (How it is layered)
I still think it is some type of RAMdisk thing. Still impressive. Ppl that hardware is nothing without software. We all ful into the trap of big numbers.
It's huge news. Love it, but they the hardware had always been there for years to do something like PS done. They finally utilized the hardware. Its an awesome sounding feature and I can't wait to use.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:40 pm to LSU Coyote
We don't know if it's an m.2 drive or not, everyone is just assuming it is because if you can free up that much space in a console why wouldn't you? No reason to use a sata drive. Don't know anything about the custom controller yet either.
Better cooling, airflow and heat dissipation with that extra space seems logical.
Better cooling, airflow and heat dissipation with that extra space seems logical.
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“The raw read speed is important,” says Cerny, “but so are the details of the I/O mechanisms and the software stack that we put on top of them. I got a PlayStation 4 Pro and then I put in a SSD that cost as much as the PlayStation 4 Pro—it might be one-third faster.”
So it’s not just a question of simply slapping an SSD into the system, Sony is claiming that it, presumably alongside AMD, has developed the input/output system to offer something over and above what you’d get from simply dropping some NAND flash into a console.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 12:41 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I'm browns too. Actuation force is the same as Reds with 45g. Just have a bump to them.
Maybe because I rest my figures on the keys or something.
I was just all over the place with reds. IDK if became faster or not. Yes I could learn and adjust but the noise just being too much. By then Browns became used a lot more on boards.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 2:03 pm to LSU Coyote
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Microsoft is bringing more games to Steam, says 'We believe you should have choice in where you buy your PC games'
The Microsoft Store will also begin accepting Win32 games, not just the more restrictive Universal Windows Apps.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 2:16 pm to finchmeister08
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How do you guys build these PCs at such high prices? What do y’all do for living? Married? Kids? What kind of job? Credit? Second mortgage?
What do you consider high?
i5 9400f + Gigabyte B360 - $180 (Microcenter bundle)
Corsair Vengeance 2666 2x8 - $70 (Amazon)
Samsung 860 Evo M.2 SSD - $90 (Amazon)
EVGA 1660 Ti - $250 (Microcenter)
Corsair 200R - $63 (Amazon)
EVGA B3 550W - $65 (Amazon)
This is basically what I have (i5 8400 for CPU and GTX 1070 for GPU instead) and I never drop below 60 FPS at 1080p at high and sometimes ultra settings.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 2:29 pm to UltimateHog
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Microsoft is bringing more games to Steam, says 'We believe you should have choice in where you buy your PC games'
Look at fricking Microsoft being great
Posted on 5/30/19 at 2:32 pm to bluebarracuda
It's smart to jump on that angle, I was waiting for someone to do it.
We're about to have Halo: Reach and MCC on Steam as well as Gears of War(s), Forza, and probably many others.
We all win.
We're about to have Halo: Reach and MCC on Steam as well as Gears of War(s), Forza, and probably many others.
We all win.
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/30/19 at 5:30 pm to UltimateHog
I still think steam needs to rethink their profit sharing.
Posted on 5/30/19 at 7:50 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
GIMME GIMME HALO ALREADY
Imma just start a thread on this and see where it takes me...
This post was edited on 5/30/19 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 5/31/19 at 12:18 am to bluebarracuda
So reds if I want to carry harder and blues if I want to make arguing with my teammates a more pleasurable typing experience?
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:29 am to finchmeister08
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to me, that's a lot of freaking money. and it seems like y'all go through these components pretty quickly when upgrading. especially each year when the latest and greatest new item comes out. i get the impression that you guys are building 2-3 computers a year.
Not me, I'm still running a 4770k o/c to 4ghz and Radeon 7950 boost
But now building a new computer once all the new AMD stuff hits the market. IMO though spending a bit extra just means it will last that much longer.
I'm a very casual gamer, so I dont feel the need to upgrade my rig but maybe once every 5 years or so, and I usually just upgrade the whole thing unless I find a great deal on a graphics card along the way or something. That rig I have now is still very capable. I can easily game at 1080p using a Radeon 7950 boost.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 7:33 am
Posted on 5/31/19 at 7:46 am to thunderbird1100
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IMO though spending a bit extra just means it will last that much longer.
That's why I bought my 8700K. It should last a very long time. Not to mention I got it for a steal at the time at $300.
I did so good with pricing on all my stuff that I'm not sure I'll match the price to performance for awhile.
8700k - 300
ASRock Extreme 4 - 80
G skill 3200Mhz 16GB - 140 (Def can get better than that now)
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW - 400
EVGA 650W Gold fully modular - 40
Meshify C case - 60
Intel 760P 500GB - 50
Toshiba 3TB - 50
Posted on 5/31/19 at 5:48 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Do I need to, and/or should I update my ASUS(390 chipset) motherboard BIOS before installing Windows 10? I have the Windows 10 iso, the BIOS update, LAN update, and WLAN updates on my thumb drive. This is a new build. TIA.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 6:59 pm to ScrapPack
I would do a boot test to see if it boots first, and if it does, update the bios before installing windows.
Posted on 5/31/19 at 8:44 pm to boXerrumble
Do you mean:
1) Turn on
2) Enter Bios
3) Check to make sure all components are registering first
1) Turn on
2) Enter Bios
3) Check to make sure all components are registering first
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:41 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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That's why I bought my 8700K. It should last a very long time. Not to mention I got it for a steal at the time at $300.
I did so good with pricing on all my stuff that I'm not sure I'll match the price to performance for awhile.
8700k - 300
ASRock Extreme 4 - 80
G skill 3200Mhz 16GB - 140 (Def can get better than that now)
EVGA GTX 1080 FTW - 400
EVGA 650W Gold fully modular - 40
Meshify C case - 60
Intel 760P 500GB - 50
Toshiba 3TB - 50
Why 3200 RAM?
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:05 pm to Korin
same price as 3000 RAM?
Posted on 6/2/19 at 10:54 am to ScrapPack
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Do you mean:
1) Turn on
2) Enter Bios
3) Check to make sure all components are registering first
Yes.
Make sure your GPU, memory, hard drives, CPU, are all recognized properly.
My personal opinion on BIOS updates:
1) NEVER update the BIOS through windows.
2) Always update the bios before you install your OS.
3) If it isn't broke, don't fix it, meaning don't update your BIOS for the sake of getting the latest stuff, unless its severe bug/security issues. If your PC is working fine, don't frick with it.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 2:57 pm to Korin
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Why 3200 RAM?
Seems like that is almost the baseline ATM. It is almost harder to find slower RAM at times in the style you may want.
Useless yes, but for $5 bucks more why not.
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