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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:38 pm to bluebarracuda
Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:38 pm to bluebarracuda
They also have a margin per die.
This being a very large die, you get less per waffer.
They are making the consumer eat it and it's not working out all that well.
This being a very large die, you get less per waffer.
They are making the consumer eat it and it's not working out all that well.
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:12 pm to LSU Coyote
Raising manufacturing cost with the larger dies, adding additional cost with raytracing cores, with the additional stigma of an early tech. Only 2(that I'm aware of) games use this tech 3 months after launch. 
It's an early adopter's tax on crack. Add in their normal profit margin and just wow...
They def should've eaten more of the cost.
If consoles don't adopt this, this will only end up worse.
It's an early adopter's tax on crack. Add in their normal profit margin and just wow...
They def should've eaten more of the cost.
If consoles don't adopt this, this will only end up worse.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:55 pm to hoojy
They can't eat more.
Shareholders and all. They will find a way for us to eat it in the long run.
Shareholders and all. They will find a way for us to eat it in the long run.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:04 pm to LSU Coyote
Question for you gurus out there..
I'm looking to upgrade my processor to a 8700k in the next couple months or so. I'm currently using a 7700k, and I did some research and my current mobo doesn't support the 8700k so I'll have to buy a new one if I want to go that rout.
Is it a process to switch out a mobo to support the new chip? I've only ever done complete rebuilds and GPU upgrades. Never needed to switch mobo before.
I'm looking to upgrade my processor to a 8700k in the next couple months or so. I'm currently using a 7700k, and I did some research and my current mobo doesn't support the 8700k so I'll have to buy a new one if I want to go that rout.
Is it a process to switch out a mobo to support the new chip? I've only ever done complete rebuilds and GPU upgrades. Never needed to switch mobo before.
Posted on 1/30/19 at 3:21 pm to SBvital
What is the reason for the upgrade?
What are your other specs?
What is the performance/experience goal?
What are your other specs?
What is the performance/experience goal?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:00 pm to SBvital
quote:
Question for you gurus out there..
I'm looking to upgrade my processor to a 8700k in the next couple months or so. I'm currently using a 7700k, and I did some research and my current mobo doesn't support the 8700k so I'll have to buy a new one if I want to go that rout.
Is it a process to switch out a mobo to support the new chip? I've only ever done complete rebuilds and GPU upgrades. Never needed to switch mobo before.
What's wrong with your 7700?
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:32 pm to LSU Coyote
I should have put a little more context in my original post - sorry!
I have two setups, my primary gaming pc and my second computer my wife primarily uses for work, etc.
My setup specs:
7700k
GTX 1080
16gb RAM
Second:
i7 4820k
GTX 970
32gb RAM
I was thinking of ways I could upgrade my setup, and I thought about getting the newer i7 chip to basically extend the life of that a little bit, and put the 7700k into my second pc to improve that some as well.
I’m buying a new case and doing some QOL improvements to the second PC as well so I guess it was just a project to tinker with the two setups a little bit. There’s nothing technically wrong with my 7700k, I was just thinking of ways to make it better I guess.
ETA: if I had a “goal” in mind - it would be to improve streaming performance. I picked up streaming a little bit, nothing crazy and no real aspirations, but I heard more cores could help that.
I have two setups, my primary gaming pc and my second computer my wife primarily uses for work, etc.
My setup specs:
7700k
GTX 1080
16gb RAM
Second:
i7 4820k
GTX 970
32gb RAM
I was thinking of ways I could upgrade my setup, and I thought about getting the newer i7 chip to basically extend the life of that a little bit, and put the 7700k into my second pc to improve that some as well.
I’m buying a new case and doing some QOL improvements to the second PC as well so I guess it was just a project to tinker with the two setups a little bit. There’s nothing technically wrong with my 7700k, I was just thinking of ways to make it better I guess.
ETA: if I had a “goal” in mind - it would be to improve streaming performance. I picked up streaming a little bit, nothing crazy and no real aspirations, but I heard more cores could help that.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:10 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:46 pm to bluebarracuda
That is nuts.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:56 pm to SBvital
Could you use the second computer as the streaming computer?
Have you tried changing to CPU or GPU bound streaming? I can't remember what they are called.
Have you tried changing to CPU or GPU bound streaming? I can't remember what they are called.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:20 pm to SBvital
Swap that 4820k with a 4930k or xeon e5 1650 v2
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:42 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
Have you tried changing to CPU or GPU bound streaming? I can't remember what they are called.
Forgive me, I'm no expert, but I THINK I did switch my encoder to use GPU as well. I watched a video on optimal stream settings and it did seem to help some.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:44 pm to SBvital
So I take it swapping to the 8700k over the 7700k really isn't that big of an upgrade/worth it at the time?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:21 pm to Korin
He's actually partnered and not just an affiliate?
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:53 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 1/31/19 at 5:55 pm to Korin
quote:
What kind of cooler you got on that 7700K?
Corsair H100I V2
quote:
Not really.
Alright then! Appreciate the input fellas.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:30 pm to Korin
That's really cool
Posted on 1/31/19 at 6:32 pm to SBvital
Couple you not use the second computer to stream? You'd just need a capture card I believe.
Posted on 1/31/19 at 9:17 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:
You'd just need a capture card I believe.
Depending on his resolution/frame rate he plays at a capture card could get expensive
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