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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:10 am to
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:10 am to
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I've been hearing the 3700x is gone be a super performer.



Same here, looks like there may be a 12 core offering after all.

I will go either 10 core or 12 core, depending on the clocks.

Think since I'll be switching everything out I'll grab a new case as well.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19365 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:31 am to


I dont know where they pulled these numbers for the 2080 ti. From looking through 3Dmark firestrike scores, that number looks like 2080 scores.

Most 2080 TIs I see are pushing 40k, if not higher
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:37 am to
Well it is wccftech.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19365 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:21 am to
They weren't the ones that got the numbers though. I got a notification on my phone yesterday about it and it was from some other blogger.

I know it's only synthetic benches with likely unstable drivers (and we dont even know if it's legit VII numbers), but it's a whole lot of meeeehhhh

This whole entire new gen graphics launch is going to be a whole lot of meeeeehhhh
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:25 am to
I think it's probably because of the ray tracing eating a bunch of costs and 1080p-4k gaming took a back seat.

I wish they would bring out a card to cater to high fps 1080p gaming every year to get where all games run at 240fps on high settings.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19365 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 10:28 am to
It's also that nvidia has no competition for their higher end cards so they just charge whatever the frick they want for them.

I'm really hoping that VII can tear some shite up to make nvidia stop being greedy
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/30/19 at 11:04 am to
The numbers look on par with the early numbers. 2080 performance and about 25% average over Vega 64.

If you're expecting more you shouldn't. This is just an Instinct MI50 prosumer card marketed towards gaming so they at least have something to offer until Navi.

I was just reading that the Zen 2 SoC with Navi for the PS5 was being sent out in much further along dev kits.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56426 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 12:38 pm to
They also have a margin per die.

This being a very large die, you get less per waffer.

They are making the consumer eat it and it's not working out all that well.
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
Member since Nov 2013
11532 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:12 pm to
Raising manufacturing cost with the larger dies, adding additional cost with raytracing cores, with the additional stigma of an early tech. Only 2(that I'm aware of) games use this tech 3 months after launch.

It's an early adopter's tax on crack. Add in their normal profit margin and just wow...

They def should've eaten more of the cost.

If consoles don't adopt this, this will only end up worse.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 1:43 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56426 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
They can't eat more.

Shareholders and all. They will find a way for us to eat it in the long run.
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1955 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 2:04 pm to
Question for you gurus out there..

I'm looking to upgrade my processor to a 8700k in the next couple months or so. I'm currently using a 7700k, and I did some research and my current mobo doesn't support the 8700k so I'll have to buy a new one if I want to go that rout.

Is it a process to switch out a mobo to support the new chip? I've only ever done complete rebuilds and GPU upgrades. Never needed to switch mobo before.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56426 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 3:21 pm to
What is the reason for the upgrade?

What are your other specs?

What is the performance/experience goal?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Question for you gurus out there..

I'm looking to upgrade my processor to a 8700k in the next couple months or so. I'm currently using a 7700k, and I did some research and my current mobo doesn't support the 8700k so I'll have to buy a new one if I want to go that rout.

Is it a process to switch out a mobo to support the new chip? I've only ever done complete rebuilds and GPU upgrades. Never needed to switch mobo before.

What's wrong with your 7700?
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1955 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 5:32 pm to
I should have put a little more context in my original post - sorry!

I have two setups, my primary gaming pc and my second computer my wife primarily uses for work, etc.

My setup specs:
7700k
GTX 1080
16gb RAM

Second:
i7 4820k
GTX 970
32gb RAM

I was thinking of ways I could upgrade my setup, and I thought about getting the newer i7 chip to basically extend the life of that a little bit, and put the 7700k into my second pc to improve that some as well.

I’m buying a new case and doing some QOL improvements to the second PC as well so I guess it was just a project to tinker with the two setups a little bit. There’s nothing technically wrong with my 7700k, I was just thinking of ways to make it better I guess.

ETA: if I had a “goal” in mind - it would be to improve streaming performance. I picked up streaming a little bit, nothing crazy and no real aspirations, but I heard more cores could help that.
This post was edited on 1/30/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/31/19 at 7:10 am to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:46 pm to
That is nuts.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22542 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 1:56 pm to
Could you use the second computer as the streaming computer?

Have you tried changing to CPU or GPU bound streaming? I can't remember what they are called.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19365 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:20 pm to
Swap that 4820k with a 4930k or xeon e5 1650 v2
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1955 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Have you tried changing to CPU or GPU bound streaming? I can't remember what they are called.


Forgive me, I'm no expert, but I THINK I did switch my encoder to use GPU as well. I watched a video on optimal stream settings and it did seem to help some.
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1955 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 2:44 pm to
So I take it swapping to the 8700k over the 7700k really isn't that big of an upgrade/worth it at the time?
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