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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:21 pm to
See, these are worst popular boards. Otherwise the entire list would be occupied by PC Chips.

Man, the list of mainstream mobo brands has shrunk a lot in the past decade. Most of the current ones were around back then but also competing with Abit, Shuttle, DFI, Jetway, Albatron, and many others I'm forgetting. ASUS was universally regarded as the best and a lot of people still think they are. Intel boards were prominent and mainstream, and Foxconn had its own brand alongside their Intel boards, and both were very good.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Otherwise the entire list would be occupied by PC Chips.



How can anyone forget the nightmare? Who bought PC Chips? Was it ECS right? Or some shtty company like that.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69472 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Edt: Are you maxing out Steam servers? Think 100MB/s max them out in my region.



I just got 31.3MB/s so 250Mbps, average was probably about 28MB/s though.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:24 pm to
I also can't push myself to buy Destiny 2 for PS4. Really have to buy it on PC just because it was always the FPS I wanted on PC.

But fckk that community will be gone within the 1st fckking month.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69472 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:36 pm to
I won't get it at all most likely.
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27412 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:37 pm to
I'm getting it on pc
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:40 pm to
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Was it ECS right? Or some shtty company like that.


ECS supposedly had one of the best Z77 boards for OCing, but I haven't heard anything since
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19390 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:42 pm to
I have an intel X79 board WITH NO EUFI... Overclocking this 3930k was weird as frick on the old school bios
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 1:47 pm to
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I won't get it at all most likely.

We have nothing in common. Relationship over.
quote:

I'm getting it on pc

I want to get it on PC but scared of the player base disappearing.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
27412 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:24 pm to
Isn't there going to be some sort of crossover
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 2:54 pm to
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Isn't there going to be some sort of crossover

For PC and XBONE maybe but doubt PS4.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
26158 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:08 pm to
Answered your XIM4 question.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:27 pm to
Yep thanks man. I have it sitting in my Amazon cart.

So the support for newer games, usually comes about 1-2weeks after launch?
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
26158 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:30 pm to
Yes, people are saying the profile for destiny 1 works right now though. It a matter of when they get a working profile for the game to map the controller.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 3:57 pm to
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TSMC is preparing for the move to a 7nm process by expanding suppliers and tooling up for Deep UV equipment. Unlike Samsung, who will be using Extreme UV tools for their initial launch of 7nm product in 2018 TSMC have chosen to delay the move to EUV until the technology matures. They will instead use DUV for its launch of their 7nm products, dubbed 7N, in 2018. The difference between the two types of UV is the wavelength, DUV can be produced at 248 and 193 nm while EUV is an impressive 13.5nm, which is why the industry (and ourselves) depend on this process maturing and being adopted by manufacturers. The EUV equipment that is being tested is still relatively new but should produce a better chip in theory, though perhaps not as many usable ones per wafer when first rolled out. You can pop by DigiTimes for a list of the suppliers TSMC is adopting as well as a bit more detail.

TSMC moving to 7nm

I remember first reading about the "8nm limit" 3-4yrs ago. Was just mind fckked that we are making things so small that light's wavelength was too wide to make the channels on chips.

Well guess this is fixed with a DUV which I wasn't aware of existed.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69472 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:00 pm to
Yeah TSMC passed Intel back in March for the leader in market capital.

At that time it was by about 3 billion, now it is 20 billion. Crazy.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56445 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:15 pm to
They make so many chips for so many different companies. Really makes you go whoah.. it takes forever to retool those devices for a certain output. (its one reason we have i3-i5 even if they are the same chip) You make to a certain spec and the non-desirable yields get binned down to a lower offering.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69472 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 4:20 pm to
Yup, they've been the mostly exclusive provider for all of the Apple A series chips and continue to be, anyone in that position is going to be quite large.

Now they are starting to attack the data centers with ARM and are just pulling away more and more as that continues to evolve. They project 25% of the server market to be ARM by 2020, of course until recently Intel owned 99% of that market, currently 97% I believe.

Intel really needs to get going on multiple fronts, but they are so far behind on the mobile chip market I don't see how they can.
This post was edited on 7/19/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 6:01 pm to
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I want to get it on PC but scared of the player base disappearing.



If it's a good enough game, there will be some hardcore holdouts. It just won't be saturated with players because it's not cs go or a fricking MOBA. I am still playing Titanfall 2 on PC with the smattering of players left, and it's fine. You just play with the same people a lot.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69472 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:23 am to
Managed to snag a Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB on Amazon for $259 after checking stock checker sites from time to time.

Instantly to eBay with that puppy and already over $350.
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