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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:37 pm to
Still a power hog with serious heat and cooling issues though. Major step back when even AIO coolers can't cool them sufficiently.

I hope they get grilled to the max for it just because AMD used to get bashed so hard for that type of thing.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:39 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:41 pm to
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Still a power hog with serious heat and cooling issues though. Major step back when even AIO coolers can't cool them sufficiently.

Yeah I will need to look into it. I can't watch videos here, well can but don't.

Haven't come across a write up about it also.
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I hope they get grilled to the max for it just because AMD used to get bashed so hard for that type of thing.

Okay this is fanboy right here!

Yeah but AMD didn't have the performance or voltages. Their CPUs got really hot too. You have to understand this is a bigger package, those packages on Piledriver are tiny compared to what AMD Ryzen 7 and Intel Enthusiasts chips are in size.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69470 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:42 pm to
I mean to go backwards from Broadwell is pretty inexcusable, what is the excuse there?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56444 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:45 pm to
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mean to go backwards from Broadwell is pretty inexcusable, what is the excuse there?

Yep it is, and weird. Agree.

Does it have something to do with bad firmware and Turbo 3.0? Broadwell has Turbo 3.0 but I keep it disable since I Fix OC.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:46 pm to
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Decent deal. Where you get this shtt from? Locals?


Yep. Scouring craigslist
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56444 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:46 pm to
ill check tonight

What you bought in the PS4 sale? I'm going home and digging into it tonight. Will get Grow Up even though I have it on PC. Great game.
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:47 pm to
Not sure what is the cause, they probably just run hot, Intel has had that problem with Kaby Lake and their response was to stop OCing the 7700K.


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Both pushed system consumption over 200 watts and that's significantly more power than what the 6950X system used. 226 watts is a huge amount of draw for the Excel test, let's move on and see what the power consumption figures for the Cinebench R15 test look like.



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Okay so these numbers are even worse, quite a bit worse. The reason for this being that the Cinebench R15 test is not just more intensive, but it also runs for quite a bit longer so the chips heat up more and consume even more power. For this test the 7900X was sucking down almost 260 watts whereas the 6850X hit just 212 watts. Clearly those higher clock speeds come at a real cost.


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However, the frequency isn't my greatest concern right now. Using just 1.2 volts, which is all I needed for a stable 4.6GHz overclock on all cores, the system consumption went from the 259 watts just seen to an insane 402 watts! That might not even be the worst part, the deal breaker is probably the operating temps. Chilling the 7900X was Corsair's H100i v2 and despite being a premium 240mm AIO liquid cooler, temps skyrocketed as the CPU was place under load, reaching 90 degrees instantly before climbing further towards 100 degrees. Unless you have an amazing cooler, I'm not sure overclocking is going to be worth it.


Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:52 pm to
They did increase the clocks. We went from what, 4.3 to 4.5 Turbos.

That is some of the DR I was stating. Don't turbo so high if you will be pulling 250Ws. That is a little high. .
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Not sure what is the cause, they probably just run hot, Intel has had that problem with Kaby Lake and their response was to stop OCing the 7700K.

Well I mean, they are right. Higher clocks.. higher voltages.. higher temps. IDK. Its on the consumer to buy proper cooling. 5GHz is retard speed.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:54 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:53 pm to
Oh that is some serious wtf holy shite are you serious those are correct numbers, high.
Posted by Fight4LSU
Kenner
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:09 pm to
Is there a such thing as a gaming laptop in the $800 range capable of running games like battlefield or the division?
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69470 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:28 pm to
Yes, quite a few can actually. Any of them with a 6th gen i5 or better and a 1050 or better can handle those games at 1080p and medium+ settings and achieve 60FPS.

If you can find one with a 1050ti or even a 1060 for around that price you'd really be set.

This is the best buy I could find for you right now

$820 after $100 MIR..i5-7300HQ, 4GB 1050ti, 256GB SSD.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 10:56 pm to
What are most of you guys using for Case Fans nowadays? Noctua the go-to? Or is that only for CPU Coolers?
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69470 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:18 pm to
Yeah I use Noctua and Corsair SP120's.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19389 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:22 am to
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What are most of you guys using for Case Fans nowadays? Noctua the go-to? Or is that only for CPU Coolers?



Don't give a shite personally

Nicer cases these days come with pretty above average fans these days anyway
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19389 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 1:25 am to
I think this is the first ever time I've felt pretty satisfied with my builds and don't want to upgrade like..... Ever

Putting this custom loop in my main PC has really made me never want to upgrade ever again. Even though I want 1080s really bad, frick having to deal with that whole nonsense in my loop
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16720 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 6:06 am to
Oh man, I stumbled down the rabbit hole of Zelda Link to the Past randomizer. Such a crazy spin on this classic. Watched a few games of a tournament on Twitch and now I'm hooked.

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I think this is the first ever time I've felt pretty satisfied with my builds and don't want to upgrade like..... Ever


Well you don't have to, lol
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 6:07 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56444 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:54 am to
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Zelda Link to the Past randomizer

Is is harder correct?

I might hit this up this weekend. I'll hit you up on Steam for links, or post here.

Only have the PS4 with me while out of town and the SO will be playing Crash on it. But do have a laptop!
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56444 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 7:56 am to
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What are most of you guys using for Case Fans nowadays?

The Corsair SP120s are good for price/performance.

I use some crazy case fans which I think still cost $25-$30 each but honestly, once you get to about 1000-1200 they all sound the same.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:36 am to
Gentle typhoons

Edit: but not as case fans. Non radiator fans are whatever corsair shoved into the 900D.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 8:38 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56444 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 8:57 am to
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Gentle typhoons

RIP

When I think Gentle Typhoons I think DangerDen and BFG.

Soo much feelings and nostalgia.
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