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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:45 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:45 pm to UltimateHog
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Yes it does, it runs the Radeon Pro series drivers just like all the other FirePro cards for workstations
Fckk I just read it doesn't?
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Of course not, it smashes the P5000 at half the price. Encouraging as frick.
But it doesn't get you anything with gaming?
Im so confused.
So Quadros... we know what our TITANS will be months ahead, this is like the same thing.
This is not a disappointment for seeing the performance coming when gaming cards launch?
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:47 pm
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:47 pm to LSU Coyote
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But it doesn't get you anything with gaming?
It's a workstation card? Hence the direct competitor to it is the P5000 hence the comparison.
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Im so confused.
I can tell.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:48 pm to UltimateHog
Okay this doesn't have FP64.. wtf.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:49 pm to UltimateHog
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It's a workstation card? Hence the direct competitor to it is the P5000 hence the comparison
Dude its really not, its in a weird place.
Why I made the comparison to the Quadro Titans. We used to have DP but don't now.
This doesn't have FP64, that is WHY the price is so different. Now this makes a little more sense.
Edt: See link
PCPer
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:51 pm to LSU Coyote
Correct, it is kind of an inbetween. It doesn't have a lot of things normal Pro series cards do.
They still have the whole FirePro line built around Vega coming in the next few months.
They still have the whole FirePro line built around Vega coming in the next few months.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:52 pm to UltimateHog
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Correct, it is kind of an inbetween.
Yeah but what I was saying. It gets driver support but isnt a pro card because it has no DP. Just drivers.
Yes the have the FirePRO because FirePROs get DP.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:55 pm to LSU Coyote
It can run FirePro drivers out of the box.
Its competitor is the P5000 or even 6000 depending on what you need it to do. Mainly rendering/VR creation from what I can tell.
You wouldn't get it for gaming, as it doesn't run Radeon Crimson drivers nor can it. Hence why it isn't the least bit disappointing that it scores higher than a 1080 versus what the equivalent Quadro card scores in the same test versus what it's gaming version scores.
Its competitor is the P5000 or even 6000 depending on what you need it to do. Mainly rendering/VR creation from what I can tell.
You wouldn't get it for gaming, as it doesn't run Radeon Crimson drivers nor can it. Hence why it isn't the least bit disappointing that it scores higher than a 1080 versus what the equivalent Quadro card scores in the same test versus what it's gaming version scores.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:03 pm to UltimateHog
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Its competitor is the P5000 or even 6000 depending on what you need it to do.
Yea but you can't compare price/performance because the Quadros have DP, they have FP64 enabled. Performance yes, but not price/performance.
We only got to my knowledge one consumer card with FP64 and that was OG TITANS. So basically what we will see on the gaming side, just with ProDrivers. Thats cool.
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You wouldn't get it for gaming, as it doesn't run Radeon Crimson drivers nor can it. Hence why it isn't the least bit disappointing that it scores higher than a 1080 versus what the equivalent Quadro card scores in the same test versus what it's gaming version scores.
Umm, I have mixed feelings with this. I don't want to argue about it.
I'm still disappointed. Wanted a crush by AMD.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:06 pm to LSU Coyote
I just want what they said from the get go, near 1080ti performance for a killer cost. And I'm pretty confident that is what it will be.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:14 pm to UltimateHog
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I just want what they said from the get go, near 1080ti performance for a killer cost. And I'm pretty confident that is what it will be.
I hope.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:20 pm to LSU Coyote
Got a RX470 and GTX 760 for $160 today 
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:21 pm to bluebarracuda
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Got a RX470 and GTX 760 for $160 today
Decent deal. Where you get this shtt from? Locals?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:25 pm to LSU Coyote
Really like this write by Tech Report. PCPer had a really detailed one but like some of the comparasons done by Tech Report.
The chart below for example. Out-of-order Window executions is one thing which makes the system feel “snappy” all of the time. Like seeing the progression compared to SB/IB, then HW/BW and now Skylake.
TechReport's - Intel's Core i9-7900X CPU reviewed, part one
Edt: That is a nice MOBO and even better test bench.
The chart below for example. Out-of-order Window executions is one thing which makes the system feel “snappy” all of the time. Like seeing the progression compared to SB/IB, then HW/BW and now Skylake.
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Intel's Core X CPUs are here, and we're kicking off this new era with the highest-end chip in the lineup so far: the Core i9-7900X. As it traditionally does for its high-end desktop platform, the company is repurposing silicon from its upcoming Skylake Xeons to serve as Skylake-X chips. That means some unusually large changes are in store for us enthusiasts as Skylake makes its transition from mainstream desktops to the data center.
TechReport's - Intel's Core i9-7900X CPU reviewed, part one
Edt: That is a nice MOBO and even better test bench.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:37 pm to LSU Coyote
Still a power hog with serious heat and cooling issues though. Major step back when even AIO coolers can't cool them sufficiently.
I hope they get grilled to the max for it just because AMD used to get bashed so hard for that type of thing.
I hope they get grilled to the max for it just because AMD used to get bashed so hard for that type of thing.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:41 pm to UltimateHog
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Still a power hog with serious heat and cooling issues though. Major step back when even AIO coolers can't cool them sufficiently.
Yeah I will need to look into it. I can't watch videos here, well can but don't.
Haven't come across a write up about it also.
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I hope they get grilled to the max for it just because AMD used to get bashed so hard for that type of thing.
Okay this is fanboy right here!
Yeah but AMD didn't have the performance or voltages. Their CPUs got really hot too. You have to understand this is a bigger package, those packages on Piledriver are tiny compared to what AMD Ryzen 7 and Intel Enthusiasts chips are in size.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:42 pm to LSU Coyote
I mean to go backwards from Broadwell is pretty inexcusable, what is the excuse there?
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:45 pm to UltimateHog
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mean to go backwards from Broadwell is pretty inexcusable, what is the excuse there?
Yep it is, and weird. Agree.
Does it have something to do with bad firmware and Turbo 3.0? Broadwell has Turbo 3.0 but I keep it disable since I Fix OC.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:46 pm to LSU Coyote
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Decent deal. Where you get this shtt from? Locals?
Yep. Scouring craigslist
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:46 pm to LSU Coyote
ill check tonight
What you bought in the PS4 sale? I'm going home and digging into it tonight. Will get Grow Up even though I have it on PC. Great game.
What you bought in the PS4 sale? I'm going home and digging into it tonight. Will get Grow Up even though I have it on PC. Great game.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:47 pm to LSU Coyote
Not sure what is the cause, they probably just run hot, Intel has had that problem with Kaby Lake and their response was to stop OCing the 7700K.
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Both pushed system consumption over 200 watts and that's significantly more power than what the 6950X system used. 226 watts is a huge amount of draw for the Excel test, let's move on and see what the power consumption figures for the Cinebench R15 test look like.
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Okay so these numbers are even worse, quite a bit worse. The reason for this being that the Cinebench R15 test is not just more intensive, but it also runs for quite a bit longer so the chips heat up more and consume even more power. For this test the 7900X was sucking down almost 260 watts whereas the 6850X hit just 212 watts. Clearly those higher clock speeds come at a real cost.
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However, the frequency isn't my greatest concern right now. Using just 1.2 volts, which is all I needed for a stable 4.6GHz overclock on all cores, the system consumption went from the 259 watts just seen to an insane 402 watts! That might not even be the worst part, the deal breaker is probably the operating temps. Chilling the 7900X was Corsair's H100i v2 and despite being a premium 240mm AIO liquid cooler, temps skyrocketed as the CPU was place under load, reaching 90 degrees instantly before climbing further towards 100 degrees. Unless you have an amazing cooler, I'm not sure overclocking is going to be worth it.
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