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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:35 pm to
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I mean there are already numerous benches from the Frontier Edition out there, all beat the 1080.

Ouch that is a tie brother.

Not only that, you can OC the fckk out of GP104. The FE is already water cooled and OC'd right?

The $499 card is air cooled. IDK, this is extremely depressing. The 1080 came out over a year ago.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:36 pm to
Nope, check the P5000, scores 300 less between a 1070 and 1080.

I actually think it is very encouraging that it smashes the P5000 at half the price.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:38 pm to
Why would I care about a Quadro card? They are binned for stability and get different drivers. Also have FP64 Double Precision.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:39 pm to
That is what Vega FE is? What are you talking about? Same exact thing.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:39 pm to
This makes me want to cry.

Damn
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:42 pm to
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That is what Vega FE is? What are you talking about? Same exact thing

Actually its not. It doesnt get the driver support. Its not a FirePro. Its like the OG TITAN having FP64 back in the day. They took that shtt away real quick.

So you can't compare price/performance.

This is not a disappointment to you?
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:43 pm to
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Actually its not. It doesnt get the driver support


Yes it does, it runs the Radeon Pro series drivers just like all the other FirePro cards for workstations.

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This is not a disappointment to you?



Of course not, it smashes the P5000 at half the price. Encouraging as frick.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:45 pm to
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Yes it does, it runs the Radeon Pro series drivers just like all the other FirePro cards for workstations

Fckk I just read it doesn't?
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Of course not, it smashes the P5000 at half the price. Encouraging as frick.

But it doesn't get you anything with gaming?

Im so confused.

So Quadros... we know what our TITANS will be months ahead, this is like the same thing.

This is not a disappointment for seeing the performance coming when gaming cards launch?
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:47 pm to
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But it doesn't get you anything with gaming?


It's a workstation card? Hence the direct competitor to it is the P5000 hence the comparison.

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Im so confused.



I can tell.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:48 pm to
Okay this doesn't have FP64.. wtf.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:49 pm to
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It's a workstation card? Hence the direct competitor to it is the P5000 hence the comparison

Dude its really not, its in a weird place.

Why I made the comparison to the Quadro Titans. We used to have DP but don't now.

This doesn't have FP64, that is WHY the price is so different. Now this makes a little more sense.

Edt: See link

PCPer
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:51 pm to
Correct, it is kind of an inbetween. It doesn't have a lot of things normal Pro series cards do.

They still have the whole FirePro line built around Vega coming in the next few months.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Correct, it is kind of an inbetween.

Yeah but what I was saying. It gets driver support but isnt a pro card because it has no DP. Just drivers.

Yes the have the FirePRO because FirePROs get DP.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:55 pm to
It can run FirePro drivers out of the box.

Its competitor is the P5000 or even 6000 depending on what you need it to do. Mainly rendering/VR creation from what I can tell.

You wouldn't get it for gaming, as it doesn't run Radeon Crimson drivers nor can it. Hence why it isn't the least bit disappointing that it scores higher than a 1080 versus what the equivalent Quadro card scores in the same test versus what it's gaming version scores.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:03 pm to
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Its competitor is the P5000 or even 6000 depending on what you need it to do.

Yea but you can't compare price/performance because the Quadros have DP, they have FP64 enabled. Performance yes, but not price/performance.

We only got to my knowledge one consumer card with FP64 and that was OG TITANS. So basically what we will see on the gaming side, just with ProDrivers. Thats cool.
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You wouldn't get it for gaming, as it doesn't run Radeon Crimson drivers nor can it. Hence why it isn't the least bit disappointing that it scores higher than a 1080 versus what the equivalent Quadro card scores in the same test versus what it's gaming version scores.

Umm, I have mixed feelings with this. I don't want to argue about it.

I'm still disappointed. Wanted a crush by AMD.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:06 pm to
I just want what they said from the get go, near 1080ti performance for a killer cost. And I'm pretty confident that is what it will be.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:14 pm to
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I just want what they said from the get go, near 1080ti performance for a killer cost. And I'm pretty confident that is what it will be.

I hope.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:20 pm to
Got a RX470 and GTX 760 for $160 today
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:21 pm to
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Got a RX470 and GTX 760 for $160 today

Decent deal. Where you get this shtt from? Locals?
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:25 pm to
Really like this write by Tech Report. PCPer had a really detailed one but like some of the comparasons done by Tech Report.

The chart below for example. Out-of-order Window executions is one thing which makes the system feel “snappy” all of the time. Like seeing the progression compared to SB/IB, then HW/BW and now Skylake.

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Intel's Core X CPUs are here, and we're kicking off this new era with the highest-end chip in the lineup so far: the Core i9-7900X. As it traditionally does for its high-end desktop platform, the company is repurposing silicon from its upcoming Skylake Xeons to serve as Skylake-X chips. That means some unusually large changes are in store for us enthusiasts as Skylake makes its transition from mainstream desktops to the data center.

TechReport's - Intel's Core i9-7900X CPU reviewed, part one



Edt: That is a nice MOBO and even better test bench.

This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:37 pm
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