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Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:18 pm to LSU Coyote
Steam is about 10% of max DL speed so 10G would put you at 1 g DL, assuming as you said their servers can do that.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:20 pm to LSU Coyote
10g was mostly for the lulz, I think. EPB was the first to offer 1g fiber in the US for residential customers. They advertise Chattanooga as gig city because of that. Comcast decided a year or two ago to offer 2g in Chattanooga at some ridiculous price to rub it in EPB's face, like $500 install and $500 a month. So EPB decided to offer 10g to residential customers for a cheaper rate than Comcast's 2g.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:52 pm to Dam Guide
The hits for the X299 platform disaster just keep coming for Intel, now apparently almost ALL motherboards have serious VRM overheating issues.
So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU, with even worse heat issues that AIO coolers can't handle 4.6GHz OC's or higher to now having motherboards with serious VRM issues.
It's nice to see Intel take back the heat/power hog title from AMD though.
Intel should have never moved the launch up, clearly not only were they not ready, motherboard manufacturers weren't either.
So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU, with even worse heat issues that AIO coolers can't handle 4.6GHz OC's or higher to now having motherboards with serious VRM issues.
It's nice to see Intel take back the heat/power hog title from AMD though.
Intel should have never moved the launch up, clearly not only were they not ready, motherboard manufacturers weren't either.
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Measuring the front and the back of his AORUS X299 Gaming 3 board, the temperatures read 84.2 and 105.9 degrees Celcius. The heatsinks on the motherboards apparently are not enough to keep the MOSFET temperatures in check. He points out that his ASUS X299 Prime is even worse, hitting those temperatures in just under 10 minutes.
This is made even worse by the fact that this is only at 4.6GHz at 1.2V, which is very moderate for a 24/7 overclock. If it is reading as 105.9 degrees at the back of the board, the temperature of the MOSFET could actually be ~120 degrees Celcius. That is because there is a PCB in between that insulates it somewhat, hence the 105.9 degrees Celcius reading. Also, Der8auer states that this was after 15 minutes of Prime95 non-AVX load. If he used a CPU stress program that actually uses AVX, the temperatures will be even higher.
Apparently, the Skylake-X CPUs are drawing too much for only a single 8-pin feeding it. This results in higher temperatures and can even burn some power supply cables. With the thermocouple probe, the temperature on the 8-pin cable read 65C on an open air test bench. Once inside a 40C or higher case in the summer, those temperatures can climb up to 80 or 90C, which is dangerous.
That is why according to him, he cannot recommend ANY X299 motherboard with only a single 8-pin PSU connector. He suggests waiting a month or two for manufacturers to release new boards with better designs that fixes these issues. It does not matter whether it is Gigabyte, ASUS, ASRock, MSI, etc. No matter how good the VRM design claim is, if it only has an 8-pin power connecter feeding the CPU, stay away from it.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:58 pm to UltimateHog
Yikes
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:07 am to Dam Guide
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They advertise Chattanooga as gig city because of that.
Oh you are in Chattanooga?
I love Chattanooga. Awesome City.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:11 am to UltimateHog
X299 is a disaster. Looks like I'm waiting to upgrade yet again. Hopefully amd can get the clock speeds competitive soon because it doesn't look like Intel will be delivering a worthwhile cpu for at least a year.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:13 am to UltimateHog
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So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU, with even worse heat issues that AIO coolers can't handle 4.6GHz OC's or higher to now having motherboards with serious VRM issues.
Post the link but I believe you.
Going that high requires pretty nice voltages on a package that large. You also can't compare AMD's offerings when they are nearly hardware locked at 4.0-4.1GHZ. You get to certain points where OC'ing PAST a certain point requires a huge voltage push. A lot of DR involved.
But I do agree, X299 is a disaster. Not really the chipset but the platform as a whole. The CPU situation is retarded.
Have you seen the leaked VEGA benchmarks? Sort of disappointed if true. A GTX 1080 is beating it. I do think this is not the flagship, I hope and pray.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 9:24 am to UltimateHog
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This is made even worse by the fact that this is only at 4.6GHz at 1.2V
This really does not make any sense.
1.2V is nothing and has nothing to do with the platform but vendors trying to cheap out, or maybe something else? WTF is this.
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So they've went from Kaby Lake having serious heating issues with overclocking at all, to a 20-40% power draw increase over Broadwell for the equiv CPU
Some of that is because the memory controller needing a higher clock, the package needs to be higher clocked as a whole to keep up with faster RAM speeds. Can't really compare Broadwell and Sky/Kaby Lake on power draw.
Edt: Sorry just reading most of your post. Was driving earlier.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 9:26 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:27 am to LSU Coyote
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:28 am to LSU Coyote
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Have you seen the leaked VEGA benchmarks? Sort of disappointed if true. A GTX 1080 is beating it. I do think this is not the flagship, I hope and pray.
Haven't seen those, been following the Frontier Edition benchmarks and it's beating the 1080 across the board with the Pro drivers.
I'm actually very encouraged.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:31 am to UltimateHog
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Haven't seen those, been following the Frontier Edition benchmarks and it's beating the 1080 across the board with the Pro drivers. I'm actually very encouraged.
That it is just beating the 1080?
Don't we want it to beat Big Pascal not Little Pascal? I know I do.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:33 am to LSU Coyote
I don't think so, it's always supposed to have been between the 1080 and 1080ti in performance for half the cost. That's the point. 
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:40 am to UltimateHog
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I don't think so, it's always supposed to have been between the 1080 and 1080ti in performance for half the cost. That's the point.
But the gap between 1080 and 1080 Ti actually is pretty large. They are in different categories.
But the price of the VEGA rumors isn't that great compared to price/performance of 1080 Tis correct? IDK really, from the little I have seen it isn't. The card won't be $499-$599 right? It will be a $700 card, so at that point just get a 1080 Ti, no?
VEGA seems to disappoint a little but man Ryzen is really looking good. I'm about to buy a Ryzen 5 once an iTX board I like comes out. Looking at a Gigabyte one right now.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:41 am to LSU Coyote
Nah the rumored price is $499 and from the get go it was expected to be within 10% of the 1080ti. I'll jump for joy.
Both of those appear accurate.
Both of those appear accurate.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 11:43 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:43 am to UltimateHog
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Nah the rumored price is $499 and from the get go it was expected to be within 10% of the 1080ti. I'll jump for joy.
Oh awesome! That is good.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:50 am to LSU Coyote
Yep I will be very happy with that.
Of course the $499 could be the lowest end one as there is supposed to 3 versions again that could range from 499 549 and 599. But that could also be false or related to the air cooler versions versus the water cooler ones as well. Unknown.
I'll go with the water cooled version again, been very happy with it.
Of course the $499 could be the lowest end one as there is supposed to 3 versions again that could range from 499 549 and 599. But that could also be false or related to the air cooler versions versus the water cooler ones as well. Unknown.
I'll go with the water cooled version again, been very happy with it.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 11:54 am
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:54 am to UltimateHog
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Of course the $499 could be the lowest end one as there is supposed to 3 versions again that could range from 499 549 and 599. But that could also be false or related to the air cooler versions versus the water cooler ones as well. Unknown.
Yea true but still.
The only bad part, AMD took too damn long. We are about to have Volta within 5-8months.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:57 am to LSU Coyote
Yeah early next year, AMD will stick to their summer schedule, albeit a few months earlier as shouldn't be HBM delays anymore.
Navi will be fun times.
Navi will be fun times.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:03 pm to UltimateHog
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Yeah early next year, AMD will stick to their summer schedule, albeit a few months earlier as shouldn't be HBM delays anymore.
Yeah lets hope its not on a 2yr cycle again. Man that hurt the market.
I was buying my 980 Tis around that launch. I'm currently 9 months into another generation with TITAN X Pascals.
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