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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:53 am to
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:53 am to
Don't spend $85 on an EVGA PSU just because it's 80+ Gold.

Get a Z270 board, not H270.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3231 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:00 am to
So the ASRock Z270M ?

Also - can you recommend a PSU for this build?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Don't spend $85 on an EVGA PSU just because it's 80+ Gold.


Actually for an ITX build I would get an SFX or SFX-L PSU. The SFX-L is better as the SFX gets overheated easily and shuts off because the selective cooling doesn't work as well as they say.

I have this one in my ITX build

LINK
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3231 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:01 pm to
What do you think about this one
LINK

Amazed I'm getting hung up on the PSU of all things.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:07 pm to
I think it's worth the extra money in an ITX build to get a small form factor PSU like I linked.
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3231 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:15 pm to
Ok cool i'll check it out. Overall I'm happy with this build - it should easily outperform laptops of equal price.





Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:48 pm to
I would also check out used 1070s. They're sub $300 right now which is a great deal
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 1:24 pm to
Are you overclocking? If not, then no need for a 7700k.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 4/30/17 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

Are you overclocking? If not, then no need for a 7700k.


Agreed
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:00 pm to
He's going with a z270 board so it'll fit the 7700k nicely.

I second stouts opinion too and go with a SFF PSU. You don't have to get one as nice as stouts, though
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:22 pm to
Worth noting that the 7700K has the highest multiplier, though, boosts to 4.5. Not a whole lot more $ (if any) to go from H to Z mobo and probably get it to 4.7 at a reasonable voltage/thermals. Those frickers do run hot though.

Stout, curious why you prefer SFX/SFX-L over ATX for SFF. I have zero experience with the SFX PSU form factor, so I'd by default pick an ATX unit when the case accommodates it (which apparently that Cooler Master does). I just don't really mess with SFF builds.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:38 pm to
It's an absolute pain in the arse to build with an ATX PSU in SFF.

Edit: especially with full size video cards
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3231 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 3:42 pm to
Updated on pc part picker

PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($228.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($114.38 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($374.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Silverstone 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1065.00
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:21 pm to
This 1070 is cheaper and more suitable for ITX builds

LINK

And I would recommend the Silverstone SG05 it case or the fractal node 305
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3231 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:28 pm to
Awesome. That fractal node 304 is sweet
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:43 pm to
If you get one of those cases then I would highly recommend getting that ITX 1070
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3231 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:47 pm to
Will do. I also just saw that the FD Core 500 is supposed to be the update to the node 304 so I'll probably go with that one.

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 5:52 pm to
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Those frickers do run hot though.


How hot? The 7700k is essentially just a refresh of the 6700k with higher clock speed and better graphics right?

I have not paid much attention to the Kaby Lake CPUs other than the HT enabled Pentiums, so I don't know too much about the specifics other than a lot of people choose to delid them to improve the temps.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16720 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:08 pm to
quote:


How hot? The 7700k is essentially just a refresh of the 6700k with higher clock speed and better graphics right?


Mine runs considerably hotter than a buddies 6700k when we both push them to 4.8 GHz. 20 deg C difference or more. Seems there are some decent chips that are sent out though, I wasn't one of the lucky ones.

It's actually pushed me from a closed loop to a custom loop. Waiting on a few parts to get here to start it.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 8:23 pm to
Wow. That's crazy to be that much of a temperature difference with relatively the same architecture.
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