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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts

Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:06 am to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:06 am to
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:08 am to
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I thought it was always stock TDP? The 6900K has a base clock of 3.2GHz and a boost clock of 3.7GHz, maybe I am just confused, you are saying that they rate it at 140w TDP for an OC of 4GHz?

Yes, just because it is Turbo doesn't mean it is not stock. It is stock Turbo/Boost. Whatever specs the chip is designed to by Intel/AMD, those are the stock settings.

So the TDP at 140W is with Turbo @ 4GHz taken into account.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 12:11 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:14 am to
I see, and you are saying the TDP difference between 3.6GHz and 4.0GHz would relate to a 45w increase?

Zen from the get go was always supposed to be under 100w TDP, and then at the conference is where we got the 95w from but didn't say the clocks only said the base clock minimum would be at least 3.4 on consumer version.

And then here just in the last few days the rumors are that the base clock will be 3.6, so they bested their minimum target of 3.4. So the TDP could be higher for consumer version I don't know there how that calculates from the 93w tested engineering sample that was 3.3/3.6. Unless you are also saying AMD will also do the 4GHz OC TDP, then I could see that maybe around 110? No clue tbh.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 12:30 am
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:33 am to
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I see, and you are saying the TDP difference between 3.6GHz and 4.0GHz would relate to a 45w increase?

IDK. That is why im really curious. If they can hit 3.8GHz @ 95W on 8C/16T then WOW! It takes a little bit more to reach that 4.0 barrier on those big chips.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:41 am to
Makes sense. AMD event at CES is Thursday so we'll find out soon enough.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:09 am to
Im excited but cynical like others. For some good reading on CPU archetitures and assembly language past failures you just need to search one thing.

Bulldozer.

Seriously interesting stuff.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:43 am to
Yeah, getting it into peoples minds that AMD actually has a better chip than Intel, to pry them away from the comfort of Intel for so many years, will be the hard part.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:47 am to
Intel also owns the IP on certain instruction sets. So no matter what kind of chip ARM or AMD can produce, something's simply need Intel chips. Example being vPro.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:06 am to
Until I start seeing AMD on this list more I will stick with Intel, but I won't be upgrading for a couple of years so who know what the landscape will look like then.

LINK

Screw those guys running Titan X Pascal x4.

I'v seen on the list 4x 1080, how is this possible because SLI takes both bridges.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 10:21 am
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:28 am to
They're probably using the normal SLI bridges instead of the high-bandwidth ones. Sacrifices some performance per card, but hey, when you got four of em, frick it.

EDIT: And those folks are just addicted to having their name at the top of the benchmark charts regardless of how impractical the setup is for actual gaming, where it takes 4 GPUs to get the performance of 2.5 GPUs, with much shittier frame latency.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 10:35 am
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:34 am to
Speaking of which I had seen but didn't know about the high bandwidth bridges until now, how much better are they? They are only $40 on Amazon and I think I am going to order one.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:37 am to
Apparently it does offer a measurable and observable performance gain. I'll probably get one when I upgrade.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:55 am to
From what I am reading it looks like 8-10 percent give or take, not bad for something that cheap.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:06 pm to
Yeah, even if it were a 2% gain, my brain would go to crazy lengths to justify buying it. Gotta squeeze out every drop of performance.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:10 pm to
So Kaby Lake seems to have upset people.

LINK

"Is the desktop CPU dead?"

Please God don't frick this up AMD.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:11 pm to
Intel put a new hat on Skylake and is waiting for AMD to unveil their newest golden goose. My fear is that come Computex 2017, Intel will nonchalantly refresh Kaby Lake to give a 10% IPC edge over the equivalently priced Ryzen, and we'll get another 5 years of bullshite.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:20 pm to
Look at the link I posted about Intel CPU arch moving forward.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:26 pm to
DHL just dropped off my OnePlus 3T


Amazing that it made it from China to my door in two days.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:05 pm to
Nice!

They are some efficient shippers over there, I got my Korean IPS monitor in two days.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:07 pm to
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OnePlus 3T

What will happen with the OS developer going under? Are they still supporting security updates?
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