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Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:46 pm to
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It is, but 1440 isn't high res now a days right? Its 2160.

I will let him respond but I believe that is what LSUToo means.


Ah, I gotcha.

I'm still stuck on 1080p gaming being high-res

For nearly 10 years, I gamed on 1366x768 and 1280x1024 res monitors
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:12 pm to
1080p isnt bad, all depends at what size.

27" is terrible but if you are still at 23-24" then that might be fine for some ppl.
Posted by boXerrumble
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:54 pm to
I'm currently using a Asus VG245h 24 inch TN panel. Its not bad for just gaming. It definitely lacks the better colors of the IPS panels, but its a pretty nice monitor.

I love the build quality too.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 11:09 pm to
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You had dual 980 Tis in sli right?

Shouldn't that give pretty good 1440p performance?



I have dual 980s, not Tis. And yeah, as Coyote said, 4K = high-res gaming nowadays.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 12:50 am to
You selling them and getting 1080ti(s)? Nvidia's reveal for them is Wednesday I think and release this month.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 1:05 am to
Not going to get GPUs too immediately, certainly not going to scramble to get the first stock. I'll compare AMD and NVidia offerings/prices over the next 3-6 months.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 1:07 am to
Nooo but HBM2 waiting lounge

Nah I may wait until summer as well, also may impulse buy immediately who knows!
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:04 pm to
I would love HBM2 but it really isn't a big deal at the moment. Reason I just pulled the trigger on TITAN XPs.

Just want cost to come down.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:11 pm to
Intel pushes out the rest of it's Kaby Lake failure, featuring identical performance to Skylake. Real window for AMD here.

LINK

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With identical performance to Skylake, Intel brings desktop performance to a standstill.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:36 pm to
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Intel pushes out the rest of it's Kaby Lake failure, featuring identical performance to Skylake. Real window for AMD here.

We knew this already.

It will clock well though. My damn 6800K clocks like shtt but this wasnt a real upgrade. My X79 MOBO was giving me trouble so wanted the cheapest upgrade with at less 40 PCI-E lanes.
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Intel brings desktop performance to a standstill.



AMD delivering with Zen really pushing Intel... that and ARM.

PCPer - Intel Allegedly Working to Replace Sandy Bridge
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OC3D is claiming that Intel is working on a significantly new architecture, targeting somewhere around the 2019 or 2020 time frame. Like AMD’s Bulldozer, while there were several architectures after the initial release, they were all based around a set of the same basic assumptions with tweaks for better IPC, reducing bottlenecks, and so forth. Intel has also been using the same fundamentals since Sandy Bridge, albeit theirs aligned much better with how x86 applications were being developed.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 9:49 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:38 pm to
Ryzen 8 core will ship with higher core clocks than the 6900K apparently now as well, so they beat their 3.4GHz guarantee decently.

Will put it within 10% IPC of the 6900K and at same clocks within 5% IPC.

And get this, rumored price for it? $499.

I don't need 8 cores, but at that price+performance, and selling my 6600K for $200...I can justify it to myself.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:38 pm to
I thought the 6800K has 28 lanes
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:50 pm to
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I thought the 6800K has 28 lanes

Sorry yes 28. Didnt need 2x16 but 2x8 with my M.2 PCIe with x4.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:52 pm to
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Ryzen 8 core will ship with higher core clocks than the 6900K apparently now as well, so they beat their 3.4GHz guarantee decently.

Yes but what is the TDP? Intel and nVidia always keep thermals way down for silly reasons. They love staying within these thermal envelopes.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:04 pm to
Ryzen 8 core has a TDP of 95w.

The 6900K is 140w.

They got crushed there too.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:06 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:09 pm to
Is that before or after boost?

Let me check this out. I haven't read anything about any AMD product.

EDT: Ryzen isn't Quad Channel? Really that is a non issue. I'm just interested in that TDP. If its reported Base or Turbo/Boost TDP.

$1100 for that 6900K is just... crazy. So glad AMD is bringing Ryzen.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:17 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:30 pm to
Not really sure, all I have seen is 93w but not specifics.

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Finally, power consumption tests reveal the chip pulls 93 Watts, just under the promised 95 Watt TDP AMD announced at the launch event. That’s much more in line with the Core i7-6600K, and should allow a little extra overhead for overclocking the chip. LINK


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In a pair of dramatic head-to-head benchmarks, the Ryzen matched the i7-6900K’s performance in a Blender benchmark, and edged out the Intel CPU in the Handbrake benchmark, by five seconds. The most impressive part? Ryzen is said to accomplish this at a lower wattage than the Intel chip. Ryzen has a thermal design power of 95 watts, while the Core i7-6900K it was compared to has a TDP of 140 watts.


I don't really specifics in relation to boost, probably because engineering samples which were 3.3 and boost of 3.6.

But the full reveal and hopefully pricing+release date will be revealed at CES, Ryzen is supposedly launching this month and worldwide in Feb so I would assume we get both of those details.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:36 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:41 pm to
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Not really sure, all I have seen is 93w but not specifics.

Yeah think this is base just because nothing shows us turbo/boost clocks. Intel's 140W is based on Turbo/Boost clocks. Guess we wont know until official launch.

Edt: Not defending Intel but just trying to understand the huge variance in TDP. Maybe because Intel is reading for 4GHz Turbo and its within their 140W TDP limit which they always stay below for the extreme line.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:47 pm
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:45 pm to
I think that likely includes it, engineering samples for those benchmarks are 3.3GHz base and 3.6GHz boost and a test TDP of 93w.

But yeah, guess they could get up to 98w or so with the expected 3.6GHz base clock on the consumer chips.

Hopefully they offer a 6 core version, much prefer that. I don't need or want 8 cores unless I have to and the price is insanely worth it.

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Maybe because Intel is reading for 4GHz Turbo and its within their 140W TDP limit which they always stay below for the extreme line.

I thought it was always stock TDP? The 6900K has a base clock of 3.2GHz and a boost clock of 3.7GHz, maybe I am just confused, you are saying that they rate it at 140w TDP for an OC of 4GHz?
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:02 am to


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