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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:46 pm to DoUrden
Posted on 12/19/16 at 1:46 pm to DoUrden
Hey guys,
My nephew wants to build a gaming PC in the range of $1000 to $1500.
I know nothing about this. Could any of you guys give me any advice on setting up a build for him?
Thanks in advance.
My nephew wants to build a gaming PC in the range of $1000 to $1500.
I know nothing about this. Could any of you guys give me any advice on setting up a build for him?
Thanks in advance.
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 6:11 pm to Mystery
Is he going to build it himself? Does he know how? How old is he?
We could give you a parts list inclusive of monitor, mouse, keyboard and send you on your merry way, but someone would have to know how to put the thing together.
We could give you a parts list inclusive of monitor, mouse, keyboard and send you on your merry way, but someone would have to know how to put the thing together.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 7:02 pm to ILikeLSUToo
NM figured it out. The 2nd card and replacement mobo are in, I will try again tomorrow night.
This post was edited on 12/19/16 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 8:13 am to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
Is he going to build it himself? Does he know how? How old is he?
We could give you a parts list inclusive of monitor, mouse, keyboard and send you on your merry way, but someone would have to know how to put the thing together.
He is 15, I have somebody who will put it together for him.
A parts list would be great, including monitor, mouse and keyboard.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:55 am to Mystery
Don't forget a copy of windows, I'm assuming you don't want to use other methods to obtain it.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:57 am to DoUrden
Yea, I will need that.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 11:56 am to Mystery
I'll leave the monitor advice up to someone else, but this should be a good balanced 1080p/1440p build, in your price range.
EDIT: You probably could go with a cheaper motherboard, but in my personal experience, motherboards for some reason have given me a shitload of problems lately, so I didn't skimp on this choice for you.
quote:
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($57.45 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($429.99 @ Jet)
Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1285.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 12:55 EST-0500
EDIT: You probably could go with a cheaper motherboard, but in my personal experience, motherboards for some reason have given me a shitload of problems lately, so I didn't skimp on this choice for you.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 11:58 am
Posted on 12/20/16 at 2:03 pm to boXerrumble
Awesome. Thanks man, exactly what I need.
If anybody has a monitor recommendation let me know.
If anybody has a monitor recommendation let me know.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 7:56 pm to Mystery
Ok took some bios tweaking on the cpu fan but 1st boot into windows.
Firestrike out of the box no tweaks just new mobo, ram and cpu:
Old
16 603 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-4790K
Graphics Score 22 208
Physics Score 11 928
Combined Score 7 204
LINK
New
18 055 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 22 061
Physics Score 17 071
Combined Score 7 935
LINK
Time to swap the old 1080 for the OG version, test and then use them both, and after that I get to play with OC'ing, providing something doesn't go horribly wrong which isn't out of the question with my past experience.
With the new 1080:
18 657 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 23 186
Physics Score 17 131
Combined Score 8 004
LINK
Preset "gaming" OC in the bios for the CPU:
18 994 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 22 841
Physics Score 18 266
Combined Score 8 622
LINK
OC mode with the 1080:
19 165 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 23 201
Physics Score 18 265
Combined Score 8 593
LINK
Have to wait for my power connectors to come in to add the 2nd 1080 back into the computer.
Firestrike out of the box no tweaks just new mobo, ram and cpu:
Old
16 603 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-4790K
Graphics Score 22 208
Physics Score 11 928
Combined Score 7 204
LINK
New
18 055 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 22 061
Physics Score 17 071
Combined Score 7 935
LINK
Time to swap the old 1080 for the OG version, test and then use them both, and after that I get to play with OC'ing, providing something doesn't go horribly wrong which isn't out of the question with my past experience.
With the new 1080:
18 657 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 23 186
Physics Score 17 131
Combined Score 8 004
LINK
Preset "gaming" OC in the bios for the CPU:
18 994 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 22 841
Physics Score 18 266
Combined Score 8 622
LINK
OC mode with the 1080:
19 165 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080(1x) and Intel Core i7-6850K
Graphics Score 23 201
Physics Score 18 265
Combined Score 8 593
LINK
Have to wait for my power connectors to come in to add the 2nd 1080 back into the computer.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:16 pm to DoUrden
I've been out of some of these threads but didn't realize you jumped up to 2011. 
Just make sure you OC the Turbo if you run dynamic to at a min 4.3GHz. If not if will almost be a wash with the 4970K in gaming.
Also I stopped using dynamic Turbo/Boost functions in desktops way back just to decrease response time. So if you have a 6850K that can hit 4.4 @ 1.385V go for it. Anything over I would say hold off on Fixed mode due to hardware degradation. Not so much on the CPU over such a short 2-3yr duration but the motherboard. The board has a lot more individual components being affected by this change. This keeps those components at a high stress state during operation which increases the risk of failure. So increasing the risk of failure on each individual component across all components may not be worth the future headache.
Proceed with caution if you go over 1.4V+ to achieve that 4.3/4.4 OC.
Just make sure you OC the Turbo if you run dynamic to at a min 4.3GHz. If not if will almost be a wash with the 4970K in gaming.
Also I stopped using dynamic Turbo/Boost functions in desktops way back just to decrease response time. So if you have a 6850K that can hit 4.4 @ 1.385V go for it. Anything over I would say hold off on Fixed mode due to hardware degradation. Not so much on the CPU over such a short 2-3yr duration but the motherboard. The board has a lot more individual components being affected by this change. This keeps those components at a high stress state during operation which increases the risk of failure. So increasing the risk of failure on each individual component across all components may not be worth the future headache.
Proceed with caution if you go over 1.4V+ to achieve that 4.3/4.4 OC.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:28 pm to LSU Coyote
First night on it, and not testing anything over stock OC right now, hell I don't even have my fron't panel controls, dvd drive, or 2nd ssd plugged in yet. I will get the 2nd 1080 installed and then fix the rest. I am very noy knowledgeable when it come to OC'ing so it takes me a while to work up the courage to risk a machine with this price tag. 
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:39 pm to DoUrden
What RAM and MOBO did you purchase?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 9:51 pm to LSU Coyote
Here is my system
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK
CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($529.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.99 @ Jet)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($678.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($678.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2499.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 23:01 EST-0500
LINK
PCPartPicker part list: LINK
Price breakdown by merchant: LINK
CPU: Intel Core i7-6850K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($529.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX X99 GAMING ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($319.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($99.99 @ Jet)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($678.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB STRIX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($678.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $2499.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-20 23:01 EST-0500
LINK
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:14 pm to DoUrden
You aren't running 4 sticks? You will get a bottleneck here.
Run 4 sticks, the CPU and chipset are Quad-Channel.
Run 4 sticks, the CPU and chipset are Quad-Channel.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:17 pm to LSU Coyote
It has always been the consensus on here the 16 gigs were enough, I will buy the extra if it will help me.
Told you I know enough to get into trouble with this stuff, but I am learning, I ordered two more sticks.
Told you I know enough to get into trouble with this stuff, but I am learning, I ordered two more sticks.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:22 pm to DoUrden
Did it go from 8 to 16? I'm out of the game.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 10:23 pm to Mr Gardoki
I have two stick of 8 for a total of 16 on two sticks
Posted on 12/21/16 at 5:23 am to DoUrden
Yes the 16 is enough. This is a different issue.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 7:21 am to LSU Coyote
Currently on the hunt for a new personal PC with a HQ series + 1060. The Razer Blade is out the question based on that shtty keyboard and me hating Razer products. Leaving me with only one real option, waiting on a Dell XPS 15 refresh.
So noticed something this morning in a TweakTown article.
We might have a Quad-Core i3 in mobile market. I believe this would be a first. After doing a little research this is confirm, nothing on the market. Previously the suffixes represented the details below.
U Series = 2C/4T Dual Core + Hypethreading for i3, i5, i7 chips. Giving you 2 physical cores and 2 logical cores.
HQ Series = 4C/4T Quad Core /no HT for i5 and 4C/8T Quad Core + Hyperthreading for the i7.
So kinda cool and weird that we might see a Quad Core i3 on the mobile market before desktop.
So noticed something this morning in a TweakTown article.
quote:
Dell's new XPS 9650 sports a 15-inch 4K display, Intel's new Kaby Lake-based processor (Core i3-7100HQ, Core i5-7300HQ, or Core i7-7700HQ), an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 with up to 4GB of RAM, and I'm sure plenty of storage options, USB 3.0 connectivity, and more
We might have a Quad-Core i3 in mobile market. I believe this would be a first. After doing a little research this is confirm, nothing on the market. Previously the suffixes represented the details below.
U Series = 2C/4T Dual Core + Hypethreading for i3, i5, i7 chips. Giving you 2 physical cores and 2 logical cores.
HQ Series = 4C/4T Quad Core /no HT for i5 and 4C/8T Quad Core + Hyperthreading for the i7.
So kinda cool and weird that we might see a Quad Core i3 on the mobile market before desktop.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/21/16 at 10:23 am to LSU Coyote
Or, the definition of HQ was written based on the current offerings only, and subject to change. The i3 could end up being a 2C/2T + hyperthreading just like a desktop i3, which would fall in line with the other HQ CPUs following the "desktop" definition of i5s and i7s. But then again, Intel does weird things with mobile CPUs, like the U-series i5s and i7s are both dual-core with hyperthreading, very small performance difference. i3 HQ might be an underclocked i5 HQ.
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