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Posted on 3/5/16 at 8:19 am to
Posted by fouldeliverer
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 8:19 am to
What is yalls expectations for the new amd zen cpu later this year?
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 1:23 pm to
Any games makes significant use of i7 or is i5 still the better bargain?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 5:10 pm to
For the gaming I do, getting an i7 over an i5 is probably a waste.

I just picked up an i5-6500 from Frys for $175 yesterday. They have a $24 promo code in store deal going for yesterday and today.

I finally have all my parts. Just waiting on the packages to arrive.

I probably spent a little overboard in some components, but I did my research and bought components I wanted:

Core i5-6500
Sapphire r9 380 4GB OC
HyperX DDR4 2133 16 GB
MSI z170 SLI Plus
Western Digital Blue 1 TB

I thought about getting an SSD, but I'm gonna hold off on it for now.

Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

I did my research and bought components I wanted:

Core i5-6500
Sapphire r9 380 4GB OC
HyperX DDR4 2133 16 GB
MSI z170 SLI Plus
Western Digital Blue 1 TB

I thought about getting an SSD, but I'm gonna hold off on it for now.


Just curious: what were your sources of research?

quote:

What is yalls expectations for the new amd zen cpu later this year?



Supposed to have a 40% IPC increase from FX-8350 or 8320 (maybe). It would put the IPC roughly equivalent to a last-gen Intel chip... Unless the clock speed is severely reduced due to power or heat issues... Other than that, they're cramming in more cores for workstation/server computing I guess. I hope it's something great or at least reasonably competitive, but my expectations are low.


quote:

Any games makes significant use of i7 or is i5 still the better bargain?



Well, BF4 multiplayer is a big one I suppose, but mainly that game (as well as any other game out there) just wants fast cores, however many it may be. That's why an i5 and an 8350 perform about the same in that game (if I recall correctly). Hell, even in a lot of traditional multithreaded applications (video editing and whatnot), the first 4 cores are still the bulk of performance.

For gaming, not worth the extra hundred bucks for the i7 (says me, an i7 owner).

Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

Just curious: what were your sources of research? 


YouTube
Pcpartspicker
Newegg
This thread
A few of my friends who just did builds.

Up got the HDD, motherboard, gfx card, and CPU all at pretty good deals.

Memory is the only one I paid full price for, but I wanted the HyperX for its looks with my components.

In hindsight, I probably could've got an h170 mboard and saved about $25-30, but I wanted something future proof and OC down the road is something I will consider.

What do you think of the components? You post a lot on here and seem to know your stuff.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 3/5/16 at 6:46 pm to
Well I just found it odd you bought a multiplier-locked CPU to pair with a Z-series chipset, because you'd have to buy an entirely different CPU for any meaningful overclocking down the line, and there won't be a CPU worth upgrading to before the socket is EOL -- and the quality of the VRMs on that particular board would limit overclocking of a multiplier-unlocked CPU anyway. And only sort of weird you chose one that supported SLI but paired it with an AMD GPU that doesn't need 8/8 lanes for crossfire. Overall, the combo of components will perform well; it's just the reasoning behind them is a little skewed. Mainly, the lack of SSD will raise the most eyebrows though.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/5/16 at 6:52 pm to
SSD is something down the line I will get for sure.

The motherboard I agree is a little weird for my components but I have heard great things about it and I got it for a good deal.

But hey, you live and learn. This is my first big build on my own

Edit: I've also read that you can OC the locked intel Skylake CPUs using the base clock, but I'm a bit skeptical on doing that.
This post was edited on 3/5/16 at 6:54 pm
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 3/5/16 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

Edit: I've also read that you can OC the locked intel Skylake CPUs using the base clock, but I'm a bit skeptical on doing that.



You might be able to, but Intel released a microcode update rolled into motherboard bios updates to block it. If your board comes with a more recent bios, you're possibly SOL. But also, an H-series board would be able to do it, too.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 3/5/16 at 7:05 pm to
Hmm, I thought h170 boards weren't able to do ocing?

I didn't know you could do any ocing with the h170 chipset.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 3/5/16 at 7:17 pm to
BCLK overclocking only, if the bios allows for it (not all H boards will support it).
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 3:29 am to
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 6:23 am to
I don't understand she wasnt even getting naked
This post was edited on 3/6/16 at 9:50 am
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 9:10 am to
who is she?

I remember when someone donated 10k to Ellohime. He just stared at the screen for like 5 minutes
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54363 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 9:21 am to
She a league player?
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 9:24 am to
Judging by her youtube she is some sort of moba (they all look the same to me) and cosplay with some other stuff sprinkled in.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 11:02 am to
Man that's sad.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:07 pm to
?
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:11 pm to
Giving thousands of dollars to a girl on the internet for being hot. It's sad.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 12:32 pm to
Maybe he likes her content? It's possible
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 3/6/16 at 1:00 pm to
"content"
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