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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:43 pm to
That proves nothing. Bruen has been good for a long time. I have had it since week 1. It just could not compete with pre nerf grau. Especially at range. It’s a top tier gun sure. But the fal is way more broken.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:15 am to
It's a good gun but the movement and ADS is very slow compared to ARs. It's accurate and can kill at range way quicker than the grau could ever.

FAL is not really broken with flinch. If you can get all your shots in long range then the other guy is terrible. Any m4/grau/m13 will pepper the FAL to make them flinch and bail
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 12:17 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:29 am to
The guns been out two months now. It isn’t some secret OP gun is my point. And while ttk is better with raw numbers it just did not work that way in practical use from range vs the grau. The grau was just more consistent from range. Not to mention the obvious movement and ads advantages it has. It’s a really good gun. It doesn’t need to be nerfed. Maybe I am wrong and it will become meta, let’s see. Even nick went right back to his nerfed grau after.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:31 am to
The fal is broken at close range to me, it feels cheesy to me. Maybe I’m underestimating how hard it is to use.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 4:52 am
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:38 am to
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Even nick went right back to his nerfed grau after.


Nick used bruen exclusively yesterday.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:39 am to
He was using the grau late last night for sure. I watched him. He even told HD to use the grau or m4 when HD asked what gun he should use. (In fairness he probably assumed HD didn't have the Bruen)

But that isn't even really the point. Nick has been wrong on guns before. It took him forever to switch to the grau from the M4 for tourneys during Grau Meta. Just because a streamer does or says something that doesn't make it a fact. Those guys are so good they can make all of the top tier guns look OP.

I am just saying as somebody who has been rotating the Bruen in for 2 months now, I don't think it's OP. Seemed like people were jumping the gun a bit here. That does not mean I don't think it is good. I use it currently.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 7:47 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:45 am to
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Even nick went right back to his nerfed grau after.



No he didn't. I just scrubbed through the rest of that streams VOD and the only time he had a Grau was like an hour and a half later because he killed a guy that already got his loadout and Nick was using ground guns. And as soon as he got a loadout....he dropped it for the Bruen.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:49 am to
Now that is sad. Look, unlock the gun, let me know how much you improve.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:59 am to
whats sad?

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Look, unlock the gun, let me know how much you improve.


Already did. The guns a beast with the set-up he made.

He killed both of those guys in the link with 10-12 bullets. That's insane. Your biggest complaint about it is that you don't have quite the same mobility as you do with the Grau. Ok. That's assuming a blanket playing style of running all over the map trying to drop 30 bombs like Nick and other streamers do.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:01 am to
Man yall dig too much into the science of this shite. Just use whatever gun you feel comfortable with. None of us are suiting up for Faze any time soon. I'm not one to sacrifice what I like just to be part of the meta.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:03 am to
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Man yall dig too much into the science of this shite. Just use whatever gun you feel comfortable with. None of us are suiting up for Faze any time soon. I'm not one to sacrifice what I like just to be part of the meta.




Absolutely. I never said everyone should use the gun and that it's the absolute only option in the game. All I said was it was about to get nerfed and that it was a monster.

btw Sumfuhny and Crowder are both using it at this exact moment on stream.
Posted by bluebarracuda
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:04 am to
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None of us are suiting up for Faze any time soon.


Maybe you aren't, scrub
Posted by J Murdah
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:05 am to
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btw Sumfuhny and Crowder are both using it at this exact moment on stream.

I mean if I played as much as them I probably wouldnt use the same loadout 24/7
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:06 am to
Well yea, that's what I try and do. Unsuccessfully.

This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 8:07 am
Posted by J Murdah
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:08 am to
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Maybe you aren't, scrub

Are you ready to get lapped today in Brazil?
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:10 am to
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Man yall dig too much into the science of this shite. Just use whatever gun you feel comfortable with. None of us are suiting up for Faze any time soon. I'm not one to sacrifice what I like just to be part of the meta.




That's fine. Just giving my opinion, since I have had the gun for 2 months now.

But with SBMM, it is really hard not to use what gives you an edge. At the higher tiers anyway. It becomes a lobby of all the same loadouts.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 8:12 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:11 am to
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I mean if I played as much as them I probably wouldnt use the same loadout 24/7




but...they typically do.

Also it's 9am. Unless they played through the night I'd say it's pretty early to get bored of using the Grau and decide to switch things up.

ETA Cloakzy is currently trying to level up his Bruen.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 8:15 am
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:15 am to
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btw Sumfuhny and Crowder are both using it at this exact moment on stream.


I use it as well.

I am sure a lot of people will start using it. The most popular streamer just proclaimed it OP all over twitter. It's going to make noise. And it is a top tier gun, I just don't think the gun deserves a nerf.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:18 am to
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The most popular streamer just proclaimed it OP all over twitter.
The term OP get's thrown around way too often. It's a really good player using a really good gun. I dont expect everyone to run his set-up and see an improvement in their k/d.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:21 am to
If you go back to my original comment about it all I said was get ready for it to be nerfed because Nick and Tim are about to come out with YT videos about it being OP and going to get nerfed.


I honestly have no idea what we're arguing about.

I'll say it again though just so we're on the same page. I am not saying that the Bruen loadout >>> Grau loadout. Frankly I can't really make an argument about the Grau loadout being much better than the Bruen. Just depends on what you're wanting to do with it.

Hell I'm just happy there's more options now than just the M4. That shite got boring.
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