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Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:57 pm to UltimateHog
Called this when they showed the brackets. SSG is gonna coast to finals.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 8:08 pm to Greace
If ANX can beat H2k, I'll still be satisfied.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 8:44 pm to UltimateHog
Amazing how large the gap between TSM and the other NA teams was.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:58 am to Drewbie
For there to be such a "gap", TSM underperformed at Worlds then. I honestly don't think the gap between TSM and C9 is that major when looking at the teams on paper.
Impact/Hauntzer is a push at worst with edge probably to Impact.
Meteos/Sven is in favor of Sven.
Jensen/Bjerg is a very SLIGHT edge if any to Bjerg.
Sneaky/DL is a push as well, especially if Lucian isn't available. DL Lucian is stupid good.
Smoothie/Biofrost is all about which of them shows up. Worlds Bio left a lot to be desired and he got outplayed by a lot of other Supports. But he's good. Got a great foundation to grow from.
Impact/Hauntzer is a push at worst with edge probably to Impact.
Meteos/Sven is in favor of Sven.
Jensen/Bjerg is a very SLIGHT edge if any to Bjerg.
Sneaky/DL is a push as well, especially if Lucian isn't available. DL Lucian is stupid good.
Smoothie/Biofrost is all about which of them shows up. Worlds Bio left a lot to be desired and he got outplayed by a lot of other Supports. But he's good. Got a great foundation to grow from.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 5:55 am to WareagleTD
There is a more than slight gap between Bjerg and Jensen. Bjerg might be one of three best mods in the world, and there are plenty of players and analysts that have said so.
The gap between Summer 2016 Sven and Summer 2016 Meteos is huge. To quote Tate Martell Meteos is arse my dude.
DL at his best is better than Sneaky at his best (and Sneaky hasn't been at his best since 14)
TSM would have easily taken second if they could traded into C9's "worse" position in the draw.
The gap between Summer 2016 Sven and Summer 2016 Meteos is huge. To quote Tate Martell Meteos is arse my dude.
DL at his best is better than Sneaky at his best (and Sneaky hasn't been at his best since 14)
TSM would have easily taken second if they could traded into C9's "worse" position in the draw.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:26 am to CorporateTiger
Are you guys really arguing about which NA team sucks less?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:48 am to UltimateHog
I mean would you prefer we debate who is going to get to lose to SSG in the semis?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:50 am to CorporateTiger
Lets debate which RNG team shows up tonight. If its the one we saw glimpses of do they beat SKT? I think they would give them a run for their money. I see 3-1 to either team
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:07 pm to WareagleTD
quote:You clearly didn't watch the same games I did, then. TSM split with Samsung, roflstomping them in one game and having a 3k gold lead 25 minutes in the other. C9 wasn't even competitive. The fact that you think Bjergsen is only a slight gap between Jensen tell me all I need to know. You also don't address the massive ocean between the two teams in shotcalling and macro play, which is where TSM's lead over other NA teams is the largest. It's more than just who's on the roster.
I honestly don't think the gap between TSM and C9 is that major when looking at the teams on paper.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:09 pm to UltimateHog
quote:Here's UH to tell us how going 3-3 in the group of death means you suck. Guess that means RNG sucks too. They even lost to an EU 3 seed.
Are you guys really arguing about which NA team sucks less?
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:39 pm to Greace
Even if the "good" RNG shows up, I don't think they could 3-1 SKT right now. I also think groups, not playoffs, plays to RNG's strengths.
In groups teams are prepping for multiple opponents, which makes lane dominance a really big advantage. In playoffs, with a week to pick apart RNG's middling macro, I don't think they can get it done in a BO5.
I think 3-1 SKT. If RNG has actually figured out better macro it may be 3-2 RNG, but I think that's unlikely.
On a side note, this is a reason I think ROX will look at lot better now that groups is over.
In groups teams are prepping for multiple opponents, which makes lane dominance a really big advantage. In playoffs, with a week to pick apart RNG's middling macro, I don't think they can get it done in a BO5.
I think 3-1 SKT. If RNG has actually figured out better macro it may be 3-2 RNG, but I think that's unlikely.
On a side note, this is a reason I think ROX will look at lot better now that groups is over.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:03 pm to Drewbie
Meh, NA sucked dick again at Worlds like I predicted 50 times over. Make all the excuses and blame group draws all you want, TSM choked. NA choked.
Move on.
All you did was blast the group and say TSM would get out easily predicting them first and trashing Samsung. LUL.
Move on.
All you did was blast the group and say TSM would get out easily predicting them first and trashing Samsung. LUL.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:18 pm to UltimateHog
I dunno, I don't think it's fair to say "NA sucked dick" just because they don't run the table and destroy everyone.
C9 made it to quarters and TSM played 2 awful games on the last day. I don't think that means they aren't any good. They are certainly better than in years past.
NA has improved comparative to international competition.
C9 made it to quarters and TSM played 2 awful games on the last day. I don't think that means they aren't any good. They are certainly better than in years past.
NA has improved comparative to international competition.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:21 pm to UltimateHog
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TSM would get out easily predicting them first and trashing Samsung. LUL.
In his defense TSM did throttle SSG
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:25 pm to Greace
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In his defense TSM did throttle SSG
Until it mattered and SSG rolled, as well as mediocre RNG from shitty (in his words) China.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:26 pm to UltimateHog
quote:NA's 4th placed team in summer beat EU's 1 seed twice and Korea's 1 seed once. C9 advanced out of a group with SKT in it, and TSM split with a Korean team and ended up going out on a tiebreaker in by far the hardest group in the tournament. TSM underperformed. There's no way around that. But to say NA "sucked" like usual is just you being retarded. But that's pretty commonplace. No one expected anything out of NA teams outside of TSM. TSM fell short but CLG and C9 performed much better than most thought.
NA sucked dick again
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:28 pm to UltimateHog
quote:Are you actually retarded? TSM had the lead 25 minutes into the game. Since when is that rolling?
Until it mattered and SSG rolled
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:29 pm to Drewbie
Me being retarded oh you mean being dead on accurate yet again? They sucked dick. Get over it fanboy you were WRONG yet again.
Hyped up your team, they win one early BO1 against Samsung, you trash Samsung And RNG and China, look who makes it out of groups. Save the excuses for other fanboys that are as smart as a tree like yourself.
Hyped up your team, they win one early BO1 against Samsung, you trash Samsung And RNG and China, look who makes it out of groups. Save the excuses for other fanboys that are as smart as a tree like yourself.
This post was edited on 10/14/16 at 2:30 pm
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