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Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:14 pm to
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On the other hand, early ganks aren't eliminated
Yeah, they kind of are. The whole point of smiteless blue->red->gank was that the jungler would be level 3 before the lane he ganked (usually bot) thus giving him 3 skills to gank with vs. the 2 skills the laners would have. With the new jungle, you no longer hit lvl 3 with blue and red alone. You have to clear wolves or wraiths along the way. By the time you do that, the laners are 3 as well negating the whole point of rushing buffs to gank.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/25/13 at 5:25 pm to
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I like the support buffs. Before them, as a support, you bought wards to start, wards on your 2nd back along with items leading up to your sightstone, cdr or mobility boots, then by that time the game was either over or you never had nearly enough gold to buy any other items let alone items that would make you effective other than armor shields or speed boosts.

At least with this update, you can feel like your contributing late/end game as support. Beforehand, you're were pretty much irrelevant.

ETA: Another reason I like the update...you don't have nearly as many instances of some top/mid laner that has a few more kills than you easily 1v2ing your bot lane like a hot knife through butter.

Honestly, I always felt like mid and top lane had way too much of an advantage in how quickly they gained strength.

Actually I love the buffs to supports too. My main problem is the shield item supports get which is the most op item I've ever seen in the game and the exp bonus bot gets. So now whichever bot lane wins it's much harder to gank them and the jungler probably won't have enough strength to get a good gank on them. It is just so hard to stop a snowballing bot lane right now.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:19 pm to
Yeah, super op jungle solo ganks are gone, but that doesn't eliminate a well timed 2v1.

You just have to be prepared for a strategic opportunity.
You can't say that a 2v1 vs a laner isn't possible.

Another option is to keep an eye out to catch their jungler out after a gank.
Focus in 1v1ing their jungle if he fails at a gank and falls behind.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/25/13 at 6:53 pm to
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You can't say that a 2v1 vs a laner isn't possible.
Of course not. You can't break a well-timed gank. But the early strength of junglers is gone. Of course junglers still have the ability to gank, but the issue is that early ganks are gone, and that was pretty much the only thing junglers had left was a power spike in the early game. That's the whole point.
This post was edited on 11/25/13 at 7:02 pm
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 11/25/13 at 7:53 pm to
Duo tops are ruining this game for me.
I hate this Skype butt buddy thing they do.

"Well, we're good top. You'll see."
frick off.

Other people are good at roles too, and just because you won a game or two doesn't mean anything. Why does it revolve around those assholes?

FYI... AP xin is OP.
that E just melts people. Had my first 16/1/x game ever. Doesn't happen often when I take over a game, but it sure does feel good.
This post was edited on 11/25/13 at 11:40 pm
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:19 pm to
Is there such a thing as a skilled a riven? Because even the plat rivens seem like all they know how to do is slam their face onto the keyboard on the way to a 0-7 game.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 11/26/13 at 11:40 pm to
Haha. It works quite often also. I've seen a lot of rivens lately.

Elise is the free jungler this week.
Pretty fun to be able to have double the spells.

Single combo: Human form -> slow, bomb, auto, q, r= transition to spider...... Immediately q, bomb, auto... jump with e, auto, r= back to human.... Immediately bomb, q, auto.

Yikes. lengthy but huge damage.
Playing new champs is so much fun!
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 10:10 am to
Leona support with with all armor and MR runes is getting fun (34 armor to start via runes). Tanky as hell.

Played a 4v4 (no supports, summoner's rift) last night. AD thresh
Posted by DarksideDemon
Florida
Member since Dec 2012
118 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 11:40 am to
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Is there such a thing as a skilled a riven?


Yep, I main her and I never have a score of 0-7.

The only reason it is difficult is because Rivens get CAMPED every game. There is a difference between people just picking her and those of us who know how to use her and own.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:14 pm to
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Yep, I main her and I never have a score of 0-7.

Well I wish more rivens were like you. She is FOTM right now and anytime she gets picked on my team she feeds.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4843 posts
Posted on 11/27/13 at 2:38 pm to
Sounds familiar ...


Hmmmmmm
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4843 posts
Posted on 11/28/13 at 10:28 pm to
Taric is getting nerfed.

FML
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
66221 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 2:21 am to
I'm watching some old season 2 matches. IPL 4 and 5 and a few IPL Face-off's. I'm absolutely blown away how drastically the meta changed in one season. There was no such thing as early fights in season 2. Every game was a farm fest until 20 minutes or so, then teams would group. Laning phase was boring outside of some normal ganks. Very few turret dives even though towers were a billion times weaker back then. Team fights lasted a lot longer. There wasn't an over abundance of burst damage. I personally think the game, in addition to teams just playing on a higher level now, I think the game is in a better place right now. Obviously they need to fix some of the pre-season changes they just made, but overall I think they've done a good job of steadily improving the concept of the game without making it a drastic over-night change. You don't really notice how different the gameplay is until you go back and look at how we used to play it. I have to applaud Riot for that.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 11:38 am to
Any of you guys play Leona heavily?

She's been my main since the end(ish) of season 3. Was running Nami a lot, but I like Leona's tankiness and gap closing abilities better.

What runes do you use and what masteries do you usually run?

Right now I go with armor quints, reds and yellows with MR at lvl 18 blues. I've seen some with HP quints but I love the earlier bulk of armor with her.

Also go 9/21 on masteries.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4843 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 5:54 pm to
Leona is my most played champion.

I've been running what you have, the all armor + MR blues, but I still have GP10 Quints.

I've been playing Taric almost nonstop since he is OP as frick right now.

Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 6:46 pm to
Free wards have made mid lane a farm fest and that's fine with me. Been playing a lot of anivia, brand,xerath.
Posted by dizerik
Lake Chuck
Member since Mar 2009
8435 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 6:57 pm to
Hey fran
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Leona is my most played champion.

I've been running what you have, the all armor + MR blues, but I still have GP10 Quints.


I was running the GP10 as well, but with the advent of the new support items, I swapped them out for the extra armor.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4843 posts
Posted on 11/30/13 at 7:21 pm to
Yeah, I just don't have enough IP for new quints
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