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Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:51 am to
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:51 am to
For sure, big time too. Really great tournament for NA, have to feel pretty solid about Rift Rivals and the top 1/2 seeds at Worlds assuming TL gets one, there is virtually no international gap.
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Posted by Jackie Chan
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 11:55 am to
Sucks TL started off so bad. Some bad play, but also I didn't like a lot of their picks.

But the results are quite standard. Asia on top and NA/EU below them.

Kingzone getting beat up some was more surprising than the TL struggles.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 11:56 am
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 12:00 pm to
Yeah the bad start killed them and did them in, just can't do that. But on the flip side they adapted really quick and went 4-2 to force the tiebreaker.

They beat RNG/FW/FNC after that 0-4 start. I think I'd still take NA over EU right now, but luckily Rift Rivals is just over a month away mid split.

Western teams are a bit behind, but compared to previous years the gap at least in this tournament, looks quite small. Avoid a bad start at Worlds = likely advance.

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Kingzone getting beat up some was more surprising than the TL struggles.


True, they were the heavy heavy favorites coming in, and now after groups it's RNG as the favorites. Hell after 3 days it was Flash Wolves. Goes to show how close all of these teams are at least in BO1's. LCK in BO5's is a whole different animal.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 12:00 pm to
Great tournament for NA.. They just finished in the exact same spot as TSM last year. How hard were you dropped on your head as a child?
Posted by Jackie Chan
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 12:09 pm to
Yeah them finishing in 5th is bad, but I think their ability to recover after such a bad start is a good takeaway.

They could have folded after the first 2 days, but they mad a decent comeback.

It's a little different from NA's normal "start strong, then collapse"
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 12:26 pm to
ETA: thought the 0-4 was about the game. My bad.

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Good to see NA have a really strong showing though


I mean, they did about what NA has always done - barely miss groups - on big stages.

They had 3 good wins in RNG, FW, and Fnatic but they overall lost the series to Fnatic 2-1. The fourth win was EVOS who everyone but TL and Fnatic swept. Flash Wolves have been slipping hard the last few days. RNG was a solid win, but made them look silly this morning in the second game.

I give them a ton of credit for making it competitive. They could have rolled over and crumbled but fought hard while almost getting that 4th spot.

The results still tell me that NA is behind the other regions. The standings show that games were very winnable. No 1-2 teams were THAT dominant.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:40 am to
The loss to EVOS is wat really stings. If they won that match (which they should have), there’s no tie-breaker.

How NA teams continue to frick up and lose to bad teams, I don’t understand. I don’t think anyone expected to advance past FW, KingZone, or RNg, but we at least should have made the semis
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 9:24 am to
just finished watching all the matches last night. some thoughts:

Liquid SMH. nice comeback at least to force a tiebreak.

kai'sa is ridiculous and should just be perma banned

Karma rose to S tier midlaner I think?

Malzahar priority has sky rocketed and not just for Liquid

Kog'maw does a frickton of damage and apparently is a counter pick into kai'sa.

enchanter supports have made a comeback with janna, karma, soraka

the xin Zhao jungle picks were bold. the lack of Sejuani jungle has been refreshing
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

FNC Broxah: 'The NA fans should be really proud of Team Liquid. They had such a poor start and there was talk of 0-10. Somehow they managed to bounce back and do really well against every team they played.'
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

kai'sa is ridiculous and should just be perma banned


I'm glad a new adc is in the mix for pick/bans. Makes it a tad more diverse.

quote:

Karma rose to S tier midlaner I think?


Karma is just a good solid mid pick because she's safe and has a lot of support to a team looking to play around the other lanes. Karma can also get away with building Ardent Censor if your support cant. She does solid damage as well.

quote:

Malzahar priority has sky rocketed and not just for Liquid


Malz was popular in the spring split as well. It just forces you to build QSS to take up an item spot or you'll die. Pro teams are so quick to collapse that a flash/ult Malz pretty much ensures a 4v5 without a QSS.

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Kog'maw does a frickton of damage and apparently is a counter pick into kai'sa.


I agree, it's just such a risky pick. No escape makes for an easy target unless you have good front lines. You pretty much have to pick your entire team around Kog if you pick him.

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the xin Zhao jungle picks were bold. the lack of Sejuani jungle has been refreshing


The Sej pick was pretty much a jungle Malzahar. You get hit by the ult you were pretty much dead. I think that they nerfed her tankiness in the past, which didn't make her as viable.

I'm with you though. I like more variety, especially in the jungle.
Posted by dcrews
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Malzahar priority has sky rocketed and not just for Liquid


His wave clear is great after 1 item and his ult is always great, especially in our elo.

Even if it's easily countered by a QSS, that's 1,500 gold (I think). You're forcing anyone who purchases it to delay half an item.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30191 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

You pretty much have to pick your entire team around Kog if you pick him.


Mid - Karma
Top- Shen
Support - Lulu
Jungle - Trundle

You're 9 kinds of fricked if Kog dies though
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1954 posts
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:53 am to
quote:

You're 9 kinds of fricked if Kog dies though


Exactly.
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1954 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:20 am to
RNG sweeps Fnatic 3-0. All of them were competitive games though. Fnatic just couldnt get anything going.

RNG looks really good right now.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 8:27 am to
shite I forgot those games were today. I wish I wouldnt of read this thread
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 9:57 am to
I think RNG loses to the winner of FW and KZ
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1954 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

I wish I wouldnt of read this thread


My bad man, didn't mean to spoil it.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4696 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 10:17 pm to
Its no big deal man I just didn't have anything to watch at work today
Posted by SBvital
Member since Feb 2013
1954 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:13 am to
Me after that last finals game
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22815 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:24 am to
KZ with the throw
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