re: Official CoD: MW3 / WZ Thread

How do I find out what my fricking activision ID is so my son in law can watch my awesomeness? I'm X-Box and he's Playstation. I have no idea why I'm even letting him hang around my house with this PS nonsense

I loved verdansk too but I think everyone is blinded by the nostalgia of it and can’t be objective because they don’t fully remember everything about it. Handful of areas were so OP for camping squads. Open areas between POIs were larger and more dangerous to cross. I’m not saying Al Mazrah as a map is for sure better, but I think this auto assumption verdansk was the best is not true either.

As far as game engine being sluggish can you be more clear what you’re talking about? Keep in mind we, I think, are talking about OG verdansk prior to CW integration. Most of the movement absurdity came through CW and VG integration and I also think many are having a hard time remembering exactly how the movement was back then. Slide canceling existed then but was not as integral as post CW/VG. I prefer the dolphin dive mechanic being available personally. Plating while sprinting not being available is something that slows bailing from gunfights, and I expect them to change that tbh. Another thing to keep in mind is HP was lower in OG verdansk compared to later integrations so the TTK arguments aren’t as heavy as people think. I also expect them to increase HP at some point.

The loadouts in a straight line are dangerous, and it adds a layer of complexity. I still play circle, but loadouts are not as much of a priority for me anymore. I’d rather have good items in my backpack like durable gas mask, self revives, etc.

It changes the way you have to play, the game is more complicated and less forgiving. I think it’s great though, the importance of your drops, positioning, and prioritizations are critical and the challenge of it all is very rewarding to me when pulling it off successfully.

Idk if Christmas noobs or what but every single dmz game today ive been rushed by another squad in the first 5 min, or theyre on top of the area where my contract sends me.

I have to disagree with you a lot here. TTK for the rpk is 600ms and fennec is 440ms. The smg to use in WZ1 is over 600ms.

Caldera has brought tons of QoL upgrades that they seem to have just left out of WZ2. I do remember Verdansk being tough In some parts but that was the FIRST attempt at their BR and they had zero knowledge on how it would play. There is no excuse for what is going on in WZ2.

I like a lot of the changes in WZ2 and welcome it but the movement is awful combined with the fast ttk. The game is boring about 60% of the time bc bounties are dumb to push bc of all the self revives you can stack along with horrible movement and fast ttk.

I don’t know what you mean when you don’t know about sluggishness. Verdansk was the new map and people have not got the grasp of advanced movement yet. When CW came along it was a year in so people got better.

WZ2 is for slower and campier people, just the way it is. I believe the game is bleeding players so I don’t think it’ll be bad for long.

Makes sense. My fav is on train where you can't even loot people's pack.

quote:

---

I loved verdansk too but I think everyone is blinded by the nostalgia of it and can’t be objective because they don’t fully remember everything about it.

---

That certainly plays a part in it. We had a brand new BR, at a time where most of the world wasn't working. It was just a perfect storm.

That being said, there is a lot not to like about WZ2. I find myself hating the game more every time I play (but I'm still going to keep playing, who am I kidding).

The map is ok. Not my favorite, but it's better than Caldera. The looting isn't my favorite, but that's not a total deal breaker for me. It took a little time to get used to, but it's not all that bad. We have one person get kicked a night. That also happened at times in WZ1. It sucks, but hopefully it can get fixed.

The main thing that makes me hate it is the moves made created to lessen the skill gap. TTK is too fast. Movement favors the campers. Combine those two things and advantage goes to the guy sitting in the corner of a house every time. You can't do anything to make it difficult for him to just ADS and shoot. Have good position on a team moving in from gas? They might have 8 self revives combined and killing them at a distance becomes way more difficult than it should be. Want to buy a UAV to either push, or get a better position? The buy station more than likely out, so you are screwed there. And finally, it takes damn near a miracle to get your actual loadout, with perks. Loadouts separated WZ from other BRs, and I hate the move away from loadouts.

I really believe DMZ was the focus and the BR was an afterthought

quote:

---

DMZ is still technically in "beta" mode.

---

It'll always be in Beta mode most likely. Same as EFT. That allows them to push updates when they want to.

Timmy2cans is my hero and I wish I could have as much fun as he does.