Jedi Fallen Order badly needed proper RPG elements to be interesting

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Cal still feels like a Padawan by the end.

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Because he kind of is. He's essentially sent on his first mission while trying to remember the little training he received. This isn't The Force Unleashed where he's going to be pulling down star destroyers. The skill tree hints at being much more expansive. They will likely explore that in the sequel.

This kind of shows how much potential the sequel has. Shows that he's nowhere near any kind of master.

I'd cut Respawn some slack. All they had known was Titanfall and Apex, and EA gave them the reigns to one of the biggest IP's out there and had to make a completely different type of game. If they do a second one, they'll have learned important lessons about this genre and do even better. Same thing with Guerrilla and Horizon. A studio that had only known FPS's created a 3rd person open world adventure game with really no guns at all. Every time I go back to the game I can see cracks in the seams where you can tell this was their first attempt at it, but I'm confident Forbidden West will improve on their formula exponentially.

Once I figured out that combat was Souls-like, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit... until I finished the game. I tried to go back through and pick up loot I had missed, and dear fricking god, was it the biggest fricking chore ever. I only had one left on Dathomir, so I figured I would start there. I spent 45 minutes trying to get to the location. Then when I hit dead end after dead end, I realized I had to functionally replay the entire level again to get to that point. I did it, got the loot, turned off the game, and never booted it back up again.

The levels are a lot of fun to play through the first time, but if you try to revisit them, it becomes clear just how linearly the planets are built, and it sucks all the fun out of it.

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The levels are a lot of fun to play through the first time, but if you try to revisit them, it becomes clear just how linearly the planets are built, and it sucks all the fun out of it.

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The map was fricking abysmal too.

It was damn near impossible to find your way around places.

I still play enough older games that, while I noticed it and mentally dinged the game for it, it didn't bother me a ton, just because it's not uncommon for me to deal with, even at this point.

With that said, I think I still like having to backtrack better than (to now cross-post with my gushing over Mass Effect) what ME2 and ME3 switched to, which is the "Press (button) to end mission" bullshite. Immediately pulls me out of the game in a way I find horribly jarring.

But the in game door/hatch/ledge to quickly loop you back to the beginning is definitely my preference.

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Yep, which mattered less when you're first playing through because you can kind of track where you are based on which sections of the map are highlighted vs dark. But once everything is lit up? You're fricked.

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Which is really a hilarious characteristic of the game.

The more you unlock and open, the more lost you become.

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Where the game fell short, to me, was that the only loot were those dumbass ponchos and the light saber pieces and parts.

Hell, have him collect random parts to build droids that do different things or something....anything

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Agreed. This was the only shortcoming imo. I still went back and got everything though.

The main story, fighting mechanics, and the rest were all fantastic.

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the story isn't interesting, the main character is boring

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These two are absolutely false

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there's no reason to explore because you get nothing out of it

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That’s true

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Cal still feels like a Padawan by the end.

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That’s kind of the point

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That’s kind of the point

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Then the point sucks IMO. Frankly I don't care for this whole era of Star Wars, the Old Republic is so much more interesting. The awful movies have made the galactic empire boring.