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re: I really don't get the fascination with exclusives

Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:49 pm to
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and Microsoft views this as a win/win - they still get money and don't have to worry about making any hardware (which is a pretty big cost on their part most of the time) - and they actually get YOU to build it for them!


If anything I think Sony is losing out in the big picture on their exclusives, Last of us and Horizon Zero Dawn would have made them a ton of money XBOX and PC. I would guess most people wouldn't shell out the money for a PS just to play a couple of games.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:50 pm to
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don't take Microsoft not having exclusives as a admittance that they just didn't "like" the idea of it... it is simply something that corporate didn't want them doing anymore. Corporate wanted Win10 to be a big deal, so now most of the "exclusives" are also on Win10 - that's the only reason.


This is an excellent point.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:51 pm to
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I would guess most people wouldn't shell out the money for a PS just to play a couple of games.


This. I need more than games for me to buy one.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:53 pm to
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I would guess most people wouldn't shell out the money for a PS just to play a couple of games.


This. I need more than games for me to buy one.


see the reason I'm thinking I'll get an X - is because it's time for me to upgrade my computer again... I can shell out $1,000 and get what I would want on the PC, or I can spend $500 and get the X and play these games in 4k

I might be going back to Xbox by the end of 2018 because of this
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:56 pm to
This kind of stuff makes me want to give up PC gaming. I can't keep spending $500 every two or three years on PC upgrades or new consoles.

Only thing I really can't play on console are certain MMOs and Total War.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:59 pm to
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I can't keep spending $500 every two or three years on PC upgrades or new consoles.


This is fair. I feel like we are near a point where visual fidelity will be at a point of diminishing returns though.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:03 pm to
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If anything I think Sony is losing out in the big picture on their exclusives, Last of us and Horizon Zero Dawn would have made them a ton of money XBOX and PC. I would guess most people wouldn't shell out the money for a PS just to play a couple of games.


Would you? Then why has the ps4 sold up to 60.5 million to date? Do you really think it isn't because of their exclusives?

They are over double Microsoft at this point.

(Also Sony's Playstation division is at all time profit margins I am pretty sure.)
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Then why has the ps4 sold up to 60.5 million to date?


Discussing game sales not console sales. Besides, why stop there? They could sell even more.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:10 pm to
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Holding a game hostage that other people want to play but can't for various reasons is a pretty shitty hook.


That is an entitled as frick way to look at it
Posted by The Quiet One
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:12 pm to
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The business might make sense but don't even pretend it's not anti consumer.


This makes absolutely no sense at all.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:12 pm to
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That is an entitled as frick way to look at it


I'm entitled for wanting to play a game without buying a whole new console? BAHAHAHAHAH!

How dare I want to play a game!
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:12 pm to
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The Quiet One


Explain.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:14 pm to
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Discussing game sales not console sales. Besides, why stop there? They could sell even more.


Because games sale consoles. How do you not understand that?


The more consoles they have sold the more PS4 plus subs they have.
The more consoles they have sold the more games are bought for their console. (They do make money on that too)
The more consoles they sold the more accessories they sell.

You can go on and on.

The more consoles sony has sold, the more profit they make.



This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:15 pm
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Because games sale consoles. How do you not understand that?


Has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

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The more consoles sony has sold, they more profit they make. 


No consumer should be concerned with this.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:17 pm to
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No consumer should be concerned with this.


Then what are you discussing?

I started my response to somebody saying Sony is missing out by not selling Last of Us on all platforms. Which is 100% false.

And it should be clear to see why.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:20 pm to
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I'm entitled for wanting to play a game without buying a whole new console? BAHAHAHAHAH!


Yes, you are whining about exclusives and essentially acting like it's unfair to the consumer. That's entitled. You want to play the game? Buy the shite the plays the game.


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No consumer should be concerned with this.


EVERY consumer should want the system they buy to have high sales. The more that console sells the more games will be made for it and the more you can game with your friends.
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:21 pm to
You cannot convince me that the last of us would not sell on other platforms.

We aren't discussing whether or not Sony has been hurt by not doing that because they obviously havent.
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:22 pm to
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I started my response to somebody saying Sony is missing out by not selling Last of Us on all platforms. Which is 100% false.


The only way your statement is true is if the cost to put it out on PC and XBOX exceeds the money they would make.

EXCEPT if it affected console sales, but I was under the impression that the margins for the consoles are pretty tight .
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted by CockCommander
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Yes, you are whining about exclusives and essentially acting like it's unfair to the consumer. That's entitled. You want to play the game? Buy the shite the plays the game.


Saying someone is entitled for not spending hundreds of dollars on a console none of his friends own or will ever own is completely insane. frick off.

You have yet to make an argument. All you have done is throw insults around because you are so insecure that criticism of Sony is taken as a personal attack. Pathetic.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:23 pm to
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You cannot convince me that the last of us would not sell on other platforms.


Not trying to.
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