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re: EA Sports says no college football game next year

Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:30 pm to
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this is why we can't have nice things


Yup. To Ed O'Bannon, Sam Keller, and the other whiny bitches who brought this limpdick lawsuit up
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:36 pm to
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Their likenesses were being used to make millions upon millions of dollars for the NCAA, EA, and the 120+ schools who appear in the game. Not a single cent went to the players.


The 120 schools didn't see a cent of the money. And tough shite. The players knew what they were getting into when they accepted the scholarships. Don't like it? Well don't come back to school. The scholarships are 1-year renewals anyways.

Besides this whole "likeness" is bullshite. Jadeveon Clowney isn't in the game. 6'6 270 #7 from Boondocks, South Carolina is. They aren't profiting off any player. If anything, they are profiting off the prestige and pageantry of college football. I nor anyone else who has every bought this game did so because of one player's "likeness" being in or out of the game. The player's severely overestimate their part in the equation.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:46 pm to
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Dude, something like 20 D1 football programs total make a profit.

Sure it's big business... for a minority of programs.


you're looking at the bottom line. Someone did a study recently and at the power conferences everytime time the team won it was like 5 or 6 million dollars in direct media exposure to the university in question. When a team goes to a rose bowl, applications to that university jump up by 15 percent. Why do you think most colleges happily allow their athletic departments to operate in the "red"? The exposure they get from their teams is well worth it.

Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:49 pm to
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you're looking at the bottom line.


No. I'm looking at the vast majority of D1 programs. Yes, LSU, UT, Bama, Florida, Michigan, Notre Dame, etc make tons of money. For every one of those programs, there are 5 that are taking a loss.

ETA: And we're strictly talking football programs. Almost every other sport at the vast majority of schools takes a loss. *You have a valid point on enrollment/TV... but these perks are going to successful programs... those that are already likely making profits.
This post was edited on 9/26/13 at 8:52 pm
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:52 pm to
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Go to sleep, son, you're delerious.


it's cute that you think you're older then me.

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EA licenses plenty of pro properties. Yet THIS one they lost because EA wasn't willing to pay?


Had nothing to do with that.

They are getting their arse kicked in that court case.

It factored hugely in their thinking.

It's all about the Benjamins
Posted by DURANTULA
Member since Jun 2013
1885 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:10 pm to
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Someone did a study recently and at the power conferences everytime time the team won it was like 5 or 6 million dollars in direct media exposure to the university in question.


what?

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When a team goes to a rose bowl, applications to that university jump up by 15 percent.


Application numbers go up every year at pretty much every big/great school. Pretty much every team that plays in the Rose Bowl is either a Big Ten or Pac-12 school so they fit the big and/or great school situation. Besides, it's not like those schools will suddenly start accepting a higher number of students each year. Each school sets the number it will take each year and that number doesn't change because the football team made a better bowl.

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Why do you think most colleges happily allow their athletic departments to operate in the "red"?


You think the colleges want their athletic programs to be in the red? They are in the red because they spend more than they bring in. Plain and simple. You know what their number one cost is? The athletes. Paying for their tuition, room & board, insurance, healthcare, clothing, travel, accommodations, recruiting trips, and so on and such.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:39 pm to
And paying for fired coaches
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 10:02 pm to
UPDATE (5:43 p.m.): Dennis Dodd of CBSSports.com reports EA Sports and Collegiate Licensing Co. have settled a number of lawsuits with as many as 100,000 current and former players.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 11:38 pm to
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they are about to have their arse handed to them in court over the use of player's images right?

that would be a travesty and a mockery of contract law

each of these athletes signed those rights away in an arms-length transaction. in a sane world they have no claim

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that scholie with all those fancy tutors etc really doesn't come close to balancing what those kids give these teams.

where is the army of men with guns who made them sign the contracts?
Posted by xxKylexx
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2011
4039 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:04 am to
Now if only we could put a stop to Madden.
Posted by charate
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
195 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 9:11 am to
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SG_Geaux


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You realize the NCAA chose to end the relationship with EA right? Not the other way around.


And the athletes are "paid" plenty they have access to all kinds of crap that normal students don't. The best tutors, state of the art health care facilities just for them, etc...


LOL
Posted by charate
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
195 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 9:17 am to
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Dude, something like 20 D1 football programs total make a profit.

Sure it's big business... for a minority of programs.




this couldnt be more wrong. around 30 D1 Athletic Departments turn a profit. An overwhelming majority of football programs make a profit. At almost all D1 programs the profit from football pays try to pay for everything else. For some of the bigger programs, football ends up covering all the losses, at others it doesnt. Football is wildly profitable, womens college volleyball and soccer are not.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13407 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:46 am to
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this couldn't be more wrong


First hit on Google..,

" 22 Football Bowl Subdivision schools made money in 2009-10"

Can't imagine that has changed to an "overwhelming majority" in two years.

ETA: To be clear (as I read further), that article interchanges "football program" and "athletic department" so...
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 10:53 am
Posted by Tigah32
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
5721 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:02 am to
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34931 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:20 am to
People suck.

Sorry you losers didn't make in the pros and had no other worthwhile life skills to fall back on.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:00 pm to

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It's all about the Benjamins
So why do they pay for Madden, MLB, NBA, NHL, FIFA, etc. but not NCAA? Is there a specific reason we can point to as to why they do not pay the players in NCAA. . .or just being tightwads?

I'd bet there is, but I wonder if you can think critically enough.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:02 pm to
Not waiting for you to hurt your brain:

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Had nothing to do with that.

They are getting their arse kicked in that court case.
Because they didn't pay players, despite it being illegal to pay players?

I wonder why. . .

EA would have paid, but it was an NCAA violation to do so.

So basically, EA lost a lawsuit for following NCAA regs. I hope EA sues the NCAA.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:02 pm to
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it's cute that you think you're older then me.
I am certain of it.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:09 pm to
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An overwhelming majority of football programs make a profit.
What is an "overwhelming majority"?

Please quantify.

Best I could find was the top 51 football programs make a profit, many of which are extremely paltry sums considering. And 51 is quite a few less than a basic majority, much less "overwhelming majority".
Posted by LSUalreadyknow
Texas
Member since Jun 2013
1703 posts
Posted on 9/27/13 at 1:15 pm to
Ahh man. I'm stuck with 2014....
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