AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7000: September 27th

how much of an upgrade is this over the 3000 series? i'm still running 3600x.

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Reminder that this means a full system rebuild, as Zen 4 uses a new socket that isn’t compatible with previous motherboards, etc.

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i can still use my old 3200mhz RAM and mvme SSD, right?


i'm thinking i'll just need a new mobo and CPU.

dang, those sticks are expensive.

I am still running a 5600x SFF build that I built in 2020. Probably not gonna upgrade off the AM4 socket any time soon. If anything, if the 5700x drops to $200 during the BF sale this year, I'll probably upgrade to that.

I'm curious about the thermals of the Ryzen 7000 series.

I just installed a 5800X3D this past Thursday which was an upgrade from the 3900X.

I strongly recommend the 5800X3D btw as I've been getting comical FPS boosts with that CPU

Not looking to get the new 7000 series due to the new socket and requirement for DDR5. I'm concerned in particular about the DDR5 stuff since it's so new and likely going to have problems.

Think I'm going to finally upgrade from my 9900K. Been waiting for AM5 slot so that my mobo would last a few years.

what is the 7950 going to get me over the 7900?

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Think I'm going to finally upgrade from my 9900K. Been waiting for AM5 slot so that my mobo would last a few years. what is the 7950 going to get me over the 7900?

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The 7900x is already going to be a bit of a pro-sumer chip. The 7950x is for professionals. Any gains in gaming will almost certainly be pennies of value for dollars of cost. You’re paying for cores that games don’t care about.

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I've been out of the game for a bit. How is this new Ryzen supposed to stack up to the current intel offerings? Seeing as how my desktop is five years old now, I'm starting to look at upgrading again.

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Can’t say at this point, because we need to wait for real world benchmarks. On paper, markedly (albeit not staggeringly) better than the flagship 12900k at roughly half the power draw and heat.

What do you have now?

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is that really all it's getting? nvm then

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That's going to depend massively on your settings and your GPU.

I apologize if I'm explaining a concept you already know, but for anyone else, regardless: At any given moment, there is a maximum number of frames your CPU is capable of computing in a second of time and a maximum number of frames your GPU will be able to render in that same amount of time. Your FPS will always be the smaller of those two numbers for what should be fairly obvious reasons. And when discussing performance, whichever is spitting out the lower/worse number is considered your "bottleneck" or what you are "bound" by.

As a rule, 4k is going to be extremely GPU heavy. So unless you have a beast of a GPU, or you're playing a game that hits the CPU hard, it's not going to matter a lot what CPU you have, as whatever it is will be capable of calculating more frames per second that your GPU will be capable of rendering, and you will therefore be "GPU bound".

But to circle back around, it's going to be staggeringly usage case specific. I could throw up hyper cherry picked benchmarks that show that a 3600 and a 5900x are basically the same in gaming, but that would be a massive misrepresentation of the larger paradigm.