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re: Who has the best Turtle Soup in New Orleans ?

Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 10:16 pm to
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Btrtigerfan "even turtle cheesecake"
You're kidding, right?

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MobileJosh "Yea, not really. They're just words. How many desserts do you know that carry the name Turtle that obviously don't have turtle meat in them."
oh, you're serious? Turtle, as it is applied to the original dessert, was used because they resemble turtles, NOT because they contain turtle meat.

It's an established industry term for desserts containing nuts, chocolate, and caramel. Not turtle meat.

No one orders a turtle DESSERT expecting it to contain turtle meat. That's just absurd.

You said it yourself "desserts... that carry the name Turtle that obviously don't have turtle meat." If it's obvious then it's not deceitful.

The expectation for turtle cheesecake to contain turtle is non-existent, however, the expectation for turtle soup to contain turtle is extremely high.

I will refrain from insulting your intelligence for even considering this a valid argument.

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And as mentioned a dab of turtle meat with your veal, or using some turtle in your stock, easily qualifies you to call your soup "turtle soup".
This is definitely a grey area however, it's not like there are agents driving around, DNA testing every dish at every food service establishment in every city, USA.

They only investigate complaints, the most common of which that I can think of are, pork for veal, fish/ skate for scallops, swai for grouper/ domestic catfish.

C.O.O.L. or County Of Origin Labeling is another protection afforded to U.S. consumers to identify where their produce, meat, and fish originate from.

The Truth-in-Menu laws are there to protect consumers from otherwise unscrupulous business practices.
Posted by MobileJosh
On the go
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:25 am to
So you're a moron who pretends to be smart. Got it.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8834 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 6:08 am to
Insults are the last resort of people with a crumbling position trying to appear confident.
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
11336 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:31 am to
Commander's

As far as "signature dishes" there it's even better than their bread pudding
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
3102 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:44 am to
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it most certainly is illegal to misrepresent food items on a menu. Truth-in-Menu laws provide guidelines for menu descriptions, food preparations, services, and pricing to protect consumers. These align with the federal regulations set forth by the Nutrition Labeling and Education Act.


Makes sense, but I don’t think it actually applies. I’ve eaten a lot of seafood from Charleston down to the Keys, and after experiencing it (and hearing from some friends in the restaurant business) what’s touted on the menu as grouper isn’t really grouper. Same goes for other expensive fish, Swai, Basa and Tilapia are often swapped to save money.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18357 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 9:50 am to
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Swai, Basa and Tilapia are often swapped to save money.


These are pretty easily distinguishable from Grouper. Next time I'd ask the waiter "What kind of Grouper is the restaurant serving?".
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8834 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:43 am to
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what’s touted on the menu as grouper isn’t really grouper. Same goes for other expensive fish, Swai, Basa and Tilapia are often swapped to save money.
And laws are in place to provide legal recourse to remedy the situation.

But, if no one files a complaint, then the violation will go unpunished.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17718 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 10:49 am to
Commander’s Palace
Posted by Bobandus
Member since Aug 2018
208 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 11:56 am to
Mr.Ed's on Live Oak
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59336 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:07 pm to
are you related to 6th and barrone?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:18 pm to
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it most certainly is illegal to misrepresent food items on a menu.


I would think this would be obvious because of food allergies and religious issues
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2930 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 12:36 pm to
Just hard it at Commanders on Friday night. It was excellent and I am hard pressed to come up with a better one.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8834 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:14 pm to
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I would think this would be obvious because of food allergies and religious issues
And you would be 100% correct, which is why I don't understand why people cannot comprehend the Truth-in-Menu laws.

We are a very litigious society in the U.S. and there are numerous examples of violations for not disclosing or misrepresenting ingredients on a menu.

Labeling a dish "Turtle Soup" and not including turtle product in the soup is a direct violation of Truth-in-Menu, aka Truth-in-Dining, aka Accuracy-in-Menu regulations.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5329 posts
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:06 pm to
Brennan's
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
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Posted on 1/10/23 at 12:17 am to


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Commanders Palace.


My favorite! It's been a while.

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