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re: What makes cheap beer taste bad?

Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:01 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56993 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:01 am to
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substituted cheaper hop pellets for fresh hops.


There may be some fallacies to this statement.

Beer nerdery engaged

1) Fresh hops are only used by some craft breweries, and are only made in the fall at harvest time. Fresh hops or wet hops, spoil extremely quickly, so they must use them within a day or 2 of picking, otherwise they must be dried out.
2) Pelletizing hops takes the dried hops, and grinds them down into pellet form. It maintains the lupulin oils within the hops and concentrates the hops. Hop pellets are used in majority of breweries nowadays. Whole leaf, while still used, takes up more wort utilization compared with pellets, and gets you a lower yield of what goes in the bottle.

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Schlitz also shortened the aging process, which required an additive to reduce haze that normal aging would have prevented.


Again, there may be some senationalism to this statement. Additives to reduce haze, is not unheard of and is common, depending on style and brewery. I don't know of any haze reducing additives that leaves sediment to beer. If you have sediment in your beer, that is the yeast dropping out of suspension. Which i guess, is caused by clarifying agents, but also occurs naturally with non-filtered beer.

This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 11:06 am
Posted by Uhtred
Bebbanburg
Member since Sep 2018
918 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:38 pm to
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I like PBR but the wife says it makes me irritable? So I drink busch. I say this to leet yall know I love cheap beer and all those sissy boy fancy poodle beers not so much I like my beer pure beer and cold.


This is hilarious considering all these lighter profile lagers (including Budweiser) were originally created to market to women.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Lobo Apple Sauce
Member since Sep 2014
393 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:48 pm to
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Do the breweries skimp on ingredients or the brewing process, or both, to save costs?

Beer brewed in strict accordance with the German Purity Law, is the only safe beer to drink, if you don't want your health and taste buds ruined.
Posted by thegambler
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
2046 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 4:13 pm to
nothing.

A good American pilsner is a fine beer. Better than an $8 fruit flavored pint.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7935 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 5:55 pm to
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A good American pilsner is a fine beer.

Nah…Pilsner Urquell is a good pilsner. American macro brewers pilsners are flavorless version of what it should be.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20867 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 7:08 pm to
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I don't know of any haze reducing additives that leaves sediment to beer.


This happened in the 1970s. There have likely been improvements to additives in the last 50 years. Whatever Schlitz used to ruin their beer is probably not on the market anymore.

What I posted is a summary of a long blog post. The Schlitz screwup is said to be well documented and studied in business schools as what not to do.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56993 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 8:52 pm to
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. The Schlitz screwup is said to be well documented and studied in business schools as what not to do.


That’s fine, I’m sure it is. All I’m saying, is the details are likely off because most business majors don’t know much about the brewing process. Either that, or what they are claiming happened is simply not understanding or misinterpreting the process. Pelletized hops, for example.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20867 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:34 pm to
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the details are likely off because most business majors don’t know much about the brewing process.


The article I read was by Beer Connoisseur. I don’t vouch for their knowledge of 1970s brewing, but it wasn’t from Business 101 textbook.

LINK
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20055 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 12:48 am to
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all those sissy boy fancy poodle beers


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I like PBR but the wife says it makes me irritable? So I drink busch


You let your wife tell you what you can and can’t drink? You sound like a sissy fancy poodle boy.
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