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re: Velvet Cactus coming to B.R.

Posted on 8/7/12 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 7:45 pm to
I will have to agree with martini. I'm not seeing their concept working at that location with a 900k price tag...but I've been wrong before.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49603 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 8:16 pm to
That is just for the building and property. They are tearing it down and building a new one. That's about probably 2 million more if its what they are suggesting. You gotta move a lot of product through those doors to service a note like that.

And that just real estate. Nothing more.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31742 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 8:17 pm to
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Mandinas will be the only winner here.



I was surprised they didn't make it. I ate there once and the food was very good, and I thought with that location, as well as the reputation they had from their place in New Orleans that they would do well here.

Obviously, I was wrong.
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49603 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 8:23 pm to
They wanted to get back to New Orleans and what the hell an offer to make about 600k or so on a twenty four month real estate investment would be hard to pass up. Which they didn't. It kind of struggled there though. First that's a tough location to begin with and second they struggled to get the servers they needed and third the kitchen staff wasn't up to par as well. Remember this was just after Katrina. Labor was hard to come by.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 8:26 pm to
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You gotta move a lot of product through those doors to service a note like that.


I'm not going to pretend to know this area or the market, but I see what they do at their Lakeview location. They sell a shite load of drinks. Lots of mark up on drinks.
Seems simple, but the amount of women at that place ordering margeritas every evening is amazing.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31742 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 8:50 pm to
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It kind of struggled there though


It does seem to be a bit of a restaurant graveyard. Kinda like that place off Essen right next to the interstate. I'm not sure what it is now (it was Vincents for a while, I believe), hell, it may be vacant at the present time. Nothing seems to work there and I can't think of a valid reason why. The place across the street from the old Mandinas (next to Calvins) had the same problem. I forgot the name of the place but it was once a upscale place owned by the sisters that brought Semolina to BR, then Kivas moved there, and I believe it is now vacant. Some places just seem to be a death wish for restaurants.
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 8:51 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67319 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Typical NOLA restaurant serving so-so food but getting lots of love and opening restaurants around the state.


Do you actually consider the Velvet Cactus a "typical NOLA restaurant" in any sense whatsoever? It's horrible and at the bottom of the ladder in N.O.
Posted by ChicagoTiger
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2007
5492 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:23 pm to
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GynoSandberg


agreed. I'm a few blocks away and...damn, what a disappointment.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:24 pm to
Did you actually read the ETA?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67319 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:31 pm to
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It's amazing how many awful to mediocre food options are present in such a concentrated area of Magazine.


Please elaborate. Bars don't count. That POS Nacho Mamas is gone. Bulldog food sucks. But what else in that vicinity do you deem to be awful to mediocre. Honest question.
Posted by HungryTiger
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2006
724 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:33 pm to
Say what you will about the food, but those guys know how to build out a space that people want to hang out in. Bulldog BR location was a graveyard just like the old Hammond spot and they're killing it. With the towne center crowds and the surrounding neighborhoods, they no doubt see (and have confirmed) the potential.

And I still don't get the hate for the food at the VC. Chips and salsa are good, other dips are good, and no one can screw up fajitas. I don't ever order any of the other slop at other tex-mex restaurants. Seems like folks expect too much there. It's not anymore expensive than any other tex-mex joint. Margs are good and strong, too. I definitely haven't ever wanted to punch the "chef" in the face...and anyone who thinks they have a "chef" is a complete noob.
Posted by NickyT
Patty's Pub
Member since Jan 2007
8772 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:37 pm to
"For the money they wil spend just living on a bar won't fly in that neighborhood and that location. "

Martini I think this area of town is looking for a decent patio bar restaurant espicially with development of condos on corporate and Jefferson aimed for the young professional. I live in goodwood villa and finding more young people moving into my neighborhood and in the sevenoaks old goodwood area too. Food might just be ok but a thurs-sat patio area would be clutch.
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 9:40 pm
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
6291 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:40 pm to
Good place to drink and bad Mexican food? Sounds like La Fonda in Laffy. They seem to do well regardless of the crappy eats. This place will do well- especially since they are tearing down the existing building which had some serious bad karma.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49603 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:48 pm to
Could be. I grew up in the area and own a few houses there as well. I wish them well but they have some competition. It's a lot of money upfront for a Mexican place.

Whatever they do it's better than an empty building csitting there.

Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:52 pm to
These dudes know how to make money. I'l trust their judgement over everybody in this thread.

ETA: my kids like going there, so it must be good....
This post was edited on 8/7/12 at 9:53 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67319 posts
Posted on 8/7/12 at 9:53 pm to
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These dudes know how to make money. I'l trust their judgement over everybody in this thread.


Oh, no doubt about that.

P.T. Barnum was a gazillionaire.
Posted by hdyerla
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2009
2 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 2:20 pm to
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 2:22 pm
Posted by mr. penguin
Member since Jun 2009
7481 posts
Posted on 8/11/12 at 6:36 pm to
The Margaritas are strong, the salsa is served hot and is watery but the place is always packed. I think it's the atmosphere that draws people there because the food is average.
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