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re: Underbelly - Houston is the new American Creole city of the South

Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/4/13 at 11:19 pm to
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Houston has always had an image problem. They have tried for YEARS to somehow capture or link themselves to Cajun/Creole/Louisiana, thank god to no avail. They have tried to call themselves the Bayou City, various crawfish festivals, etc.
Houston Tejas is the New New Mexico.



This is retarded and untrue and reflects the mindset that a lot of La people have regarding Louisiana culture, something I've heard before but never realized until I left and lived here for a few years. Houston is a melting pot of cultures, and Louisiana culture happens to be one of those cultures. It also happens to be right fricking next door, and there happens to be a lot of people from Louisiana that live there, so there is what I'll call a "noticeable presence" of Louisiana-themed restaurants.

However, the fallacy here is that you are believing that Louisiana culture is, for whatever reason, more "revered" in Houston (for lack of a better term) than say Mexican. Or Vietnamese. Or Indian. Or Thai. Or god forbid, Texan. It's not, sorry, we're just not as important as you think we are. All the "cajun" and "creole" restaurants here, with the exception of maybe 3, are outright terrible and legitimately offensive to most people from anywhere in Louisiana. What the clowns here do to crawfish should be considered a crime against nature. Again, as I stated upfront in my other comment, Underbelly's "creole" claim is hilarious. Still, you need to remember that we're just a tiny podunk arse-backwards state that people from Texas generally hate on all the time (entirely different thread), they REALLY don't care nearly as much about Louisiana as you think they do, and I PROMISE you, they have no desire whatsoever to "copy" Louisiana's culture.

I really don't even understand how you can think this if you've ever met any person from Texas ever. Also, its not like there's a bunch of zydeco and jazz clubs all over the place. You know what there is all over the place, and this is going to blow your mind so get ready, places that play country music. Its crazy I know.

All that being said I have an interview tomorrow at noon for a job back in nola so :fingerscrossed:.
This post was edited on 4/4/13 at 11:22 pm
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:15 am to
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Houston is a melting pot of cultures, and Louisiana culture happens to be one of those cultures. It also happens to be right fricking next door, and there happens to be a lot of people from Louisiana that live there, so there is what I'll call a "noticeable presence" of Louisiana-themed restaurants.

However, the fallacy here is that you are believing that Louisiana culture is, for whatever reason, more "revered" in Houston (for lack of a better term) than say Mexican. Or Vietnamese. Or Indian. Or Thai. Or god forbid, Texan


I have no problem with this.

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Still, you need to remember that we're just a tiny podunk arse-backwards state


Some truth to this, but a little overstated.

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that people from Texas generally hate on all the time (entirely different thread), they REALLY don't care nearly as much about Louisiana as you think they do, and I PROMISE you, they have no desire whatsoever to "copy" Louisiana's culture.


And yet, I've found my Texan friends seem to swing between derision of Louisiana and, ironically, a tendency to try and emulate, maybe a better word is adopt, parts of Louisiana's culture.

Full disclosure: While I think Houston has some good restaurants and lots of things to do (I've spent a lot of time there over the years), I think I'd sink into deep depression and jump off of a bridge if I had to live there for any period of time. So good luck with your interview.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:32 am to
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Full disclosure: While I think Houston has some good restaurants and lots of things to do (I've spent a lot of time there over the years), I think I'd sink into deep depression and jump off of a bridge if I had to live there for any period of time. So good luck with your interview.


If I had to live in one of the suburbs like many of the posters here that "live in Houston," I might have driven my car into a freeway barrier by now. The bad rap that Houston gets it mostly due to the suburbs which are pretty much a wasteland. There are pockets of ok stuff out there but for the most part, garbage.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:36 am to
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If I had to live in one of the suburbs like many of the posters here that "live in Houston," I might have driven my car into a freeway barrier by now. The bad rap that Houston gets it mostly due to the suburbs which are pretty much a wasteland. There are pockets of ok stuff out there but for the most part, garbage.


Agreed. Inside the loop there are some cool neighborhoods and there's tons of restaurants, bars, museums, music venues, shopping, etc..
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118252 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:37 am to
What day are you going to beer fest? Sat/Sun?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:38 am to
The only day it's happening is tomorrow.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118252 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:40 am to
Yeah, just found that out. Dang,


Wear your LSU law hat.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:44 am to
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If I had to live in one of the suburbs like many of the posters here that "live in Houston," I might have driven my car into a freeway barrier by now. The bad rap that Houston gets it mostly due to the suburbs which are pretty much a wasteland. There are pockets of ok stuff out there but for the most part, garbage.


I couldn't agree more. When I worked out there my boss tried convincing me to buy a house in Tomball. Told him he was crazy if he thought I wanted to spend 2 plus hours driving to and from work everyday or make a road trip just to go to an Astros game.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:51 am to
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I couldn't agree more. When I worked out there my boss tried convincing me to buy a house in Tomball.


I lived for 6 months near Cypress. It was fine if all I wanted to do was stay out there and not ever commute. Yes there was a little bit of everything within a reasonable distance but nothing compared to closer to the city. Commuting was the biggest bear for me. Currently the furthest out I'll consider is the Garden Oaks area just north of 610 along Shepherd.

It is ridiculous when I look at housing though and compare what you get in Katy, Cypress, Sugar Land etc vs Heights, Montrose, Rice Village, etc..
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:53 am to
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Garden Oaks area just north of 610 along Shepherd.


I've heard this area is blowing up now too. Got a few friends that live there.
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
15055 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:59 am to
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MillerMan


It's somewhat fixed. BTW don't question my fricking grammar when you can't spell the word sentence.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:31 am to
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I've heard this area is blowing up now too. Got a few friends that live there.


It is indeed. Cottonwood and Shepherd Draught House are a couple of newer places. When places like these pop up, you know the neighborhood is booming. The area is a good medium of being near the loop but yet hasn't been overpriced yet. Midtown and Rice Village have gotten very expensive. Montrose is getting that way. The house I'm in has gone from appraisal of 80k in 1999 to about 310k today. Several houses on my street have been torn down to make way for $500k+ condos.

Keep an eye on East Downtown too.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:31 am to
You know I was being dramatic for effect. And yeah honestly, living inside the loop is a totally different experience. I'd encourage anyone to go read Eater Houston and tell me this place isn't exploding with new restaurants and REALLY good bars constantly. I mean people know what is happening with the energy industry right? O

Otherwise, agree with other posters. You know how often I leave the loop? When I drive to Hobby/Bush, or when I drive to NOLA, and that's pretty much it. There's 4 decent bars, 2 nice grocery stores, and at least 5 restaurants (of varying qualities) within 2 blocks of my house. The Underbelly/Anvil corridor is a walkable distance away, and there's countless bars and restaurants in between. Inner-loop Houston has plenty of real neighborhoods, its not all cookie-cutter subdivision hell-holes like the one by buddy moved to when he got married (may his soul rest in peace).

Again though, that all being said, this interview in a half hour and I'd love to be able to move to the WHD. It's go time bitches.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:33 am to
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Keep an eye on East Downtown too


This is definitely happening. The biggest issue I see with this is Houston's fickleness about what's "hot." 5 years ago Midtown was the place to be, 3 years ago it had fallen out of favor and it was Washington. Now that's turning into a total shithole and Midtown is in full resurrection mode.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 11:42 am to
Kind of like Richmond
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:51 pm to
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This is definitely happening. The biggest issue I see with this is Houston's fickleness about what's "hot." 5 years ago Midtown was the place to be, 3 years ago it had fallen out of favor and it was Washington. Now that's turning into a total shithole and Midtown is in full resurrection mode


Pearl Bar closing is a big sign that perhaps people overestimated Washington Ave. Parking is a nightmare if you wish to go out on Washington. Though midtown has always had places that I've enjoyed more than Washington.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:03 pm to
Pearl Bar closed? Wasn't that place there before Washington was the place to be ?
Posted by MillerMan
West U, Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2010
6514 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:07 pm to
Upper Kirby is the new spot along with a few new bars in midtown like Proof.
Posted by BayouBengal
Member since Nov 2003
28291 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:12 pm to
The comptroller went in back in January to seize their cash on hand to apply towards their $40,000 tax debt. They were shut down in early March.

Non-payment of rent and lock have been changed
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
16504 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 1:14 pm to
this thread turned into a shitstorm

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