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re: TulaneLSU's Top 40 pizzas in the United States of America
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:11 am to TulaneLSU
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:11 am to TulaneLSU
quote:
Chicago is said to be a top 50 pizza city in America, but I would argue that it is not.
Nevermind that Chi town is the third largest city in 'Merica, but you can name fifty other cities that put out better Za? Casper WY, Gary IN, Clinton LA, are those on your top cities list over Chicago? Yes, the pizzas in Chicago are a whole different animal from what you find in the rest of the country, but I can't agree with you dismissing it from the top 50 cities.
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:53 pm to 4LSU2
quote:
Friend,
How did you visit each of these locations with your extreme consternation of bridges?
Because he’s a lying troll playing a character. He often forgets things he posts in one thread that directly contradict things he says in other threads and then turns cartwheels talking himself out of the corners he paints himself in when he’s called out on it.
If this isn’t the case, then I stand by my theory that he’s got at least one dead body in the basement at mother’s house.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:24 pm to dpd901
Yep. arse clown of AAA quality.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:43 am to Mo Jeaux
Friend,
Not only have I been there twice but each time everyone in Patsy’s was white. The neighborhood’s surrounding demographic may have changed in the last fifty years, but its customers share a similar color to that of customers who fill Dooky Chase and Willie Mae’s. Anyone regardless of skin tone and color is in for a treat the moment they enter Patsy’s, a quintessential north Jersey neighborhood eatery. The pizza is thin crusted crispy like Dominos thin, but is edged upward to eat like a pan style. It’s a unique crust I haven’t ever seen duplicated. Steve and Gary are super nice guys and they comped my first pizza there when I told them I was visiting from New Orleans. Well, the real story is the bill came and it was only then we realized we didn’t have cash. One of the waitresses at first was not so pleased, but we explained our situation, promised to eat there the next day, and they let us go.
The next day we ate there to fulfill our duty. It was even better. We chose the chicken Parm, fried calamari, baked ziti and stuffed artichoke. Simply fabulous. The red sauce and atmosphere inside tasted a bit like Mosca’s. Artichoke was good, but not as good as the average one in a NOLA restaurant. The waitress recommended the calamari, which you rarely see on the menu of our Creole Italian restaurants, but is ever present in NY/NJ Italian restaurants. If you haven’t been because you’re afraid of the neighborhood, you are really missing one of north Jersey’s greatest restaurants.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
P.S. When you inevitably try Patsy’s in the coming months will you write a review with pictures so we can see what you thought?
Not only have I been there twice but each time everyone in Patsy’s was white. The neighborhood’s surrounding demographic may have changed in the last fifty years, but its customers share a similar color to that of customers who fill Dooky Chase and Willie Mae’s. Anyone regardless of skin tone and color is in for a treat the moment they enter Patsy’s, a quintessential north Jersey neighborhood eatery. The pizza is thin crusted crispy like Dominos thin, but is edged upward to eat like a pan style. It’s a unique crust I haven’t ever seen duplicated. Steve and Gary are super nice guys and they comped my first pizza there when I told them I was visiting from New Orleans. Well, the real story is the bill came and it was only then we realized we didn’t have cash. One of the waitresses at first was not so pleased, but we explained our situation, promised to eat there the next day, and they let us go.
The next day we ate there to fulfill our duty. It was even better. We chose the chicken Parm, fried calamari, baked ziti and stuffed artichoke. Simply fabulous. The red sauce and atmosphere inside tasted a bit like Mosca’s. Artichoke was good, but not as good as the average one in a NOLA restaurant. The waitress recommended the calamari, which you rarely see on the menu of our Creole Italian restaurants, but is ever present in NY/NJ Italian restaurants. If you haven’t been because you’re afraid of the neighborhood, you are really missing one of north Jersey’s greatest restaurants.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
P.S. When you inevitably try Patsy’s in the coming months will you write a review with pictures so we can see what you thought?
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 4:23 am
Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:40 am to TulaneLSU
Friend,
You are full of shite.
quote:
The waitress recommended the calamari, which you rarely see on the menu of our Creole Italian restaurants
Yours,
BigPerm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:13 am to BigPerm30
Dear Friend,
Please refrain from vulgarity on the Food Board, a center for civility, class, and community. To your point, there are several decided differences between Creole Italian menus in New Orleans and NY/NJ Italian menus. One of the most obvious is calamari.
In almost all NYNJ Italian restaurants calamari is on the menu, often as an entree. In NOLA Creole Italian restaurants, calamari usually is no where to be found on the menu (see the menus for Irene’s, Napoleon House, Rocky & Carlo’s, Liuzza’s, Mosca’s, Liuzza’s by the Track, and Kenner Seafood).
When calamari occasionally appears on our menus, it is with an inconsequential presence on the appetizers menu (Fausto’s, II Tony’s, Vincent’s, Venezia, Pascal’s, Impastato’s, and Cousin’s). And this is a rather new trend, which followed the widespread introduction of the squirmy sea dancer on menus throughout America, demonstrated by chains like Red Lobster and Joe’s Crab Shack. Old NOLA Italian restaurants like Pascal’s Manale did not originally have calamari on the menu and its introduction was part of that 80-90’s calamarization of America. See Old Pascal’s menu
I know not a single New Orleans Creole Italian restaurant that serves calamari as an entree. This stands in stark contrast to NYNJ Italian.
The likely explanation is New Orleans had an abundance of native seafoods, not including calamari. Perhaps someone with better knowledge will write.
Affectionately,
TulaneLSU
Please refrain from vulgarity on the Food Board, a center for civility, class, and community. To your point, there are several decided differences between Creole Italian menus in New Orleans and NY/NJ Italian menus. One of the most obvious is calamari.
In almost all NYNJ Italian restaurants calamari is on the menu, often as an entree. In NOLA Creole Italian restaurants, calamari usually is no where to be found on the menu (see the menus for Irene’s, Napoleon House, Rocky & Carlo’s, Liuzza’s, Mosca’s, Liuzza’s by the Track, and Kenner Seafood).
When calamari occasionally appears on our menus, it is with an inconsequential presence on the appetizers menu (Fausto’s, II Tony’s, Vincent’s, Venezia, Pascal’s, Impastato’s, and Cousin’s). And this is a rather new trend, which followed the widespread introduction of the squirmy sea dancer on menus throughout America, demonstrated by chains like Red Lobster and Joe’s Crab Shack. Old NOLA Italian restaurants like Pascal’s Manale did not originally have calamari on the menu and its introduction was part of that 80-90’s calamarization of America. See Old Pascal’s menu
I know not a single New Orleans Creole Italian restaurant that serves calamari as an entree. This stands in stark contrast to NYNJ Italian.
The likely explanation is New Orleans had an abundance of native seafoods, not including calamari. Perhaps someone with better knowledge will write.
Affectionately,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/31/20 at 9:35 am to TulaneLSU
I think you were not clear the calamari was an entree. Obviously fried calamari as an appetizer is widely available on menu's in New Orleans including steak houses like Mr. John's.
Fried calamari at Sake Cafe during happy hour, has been a goto for many years.
Fried calamari at Sake Cafe during happy hour, has been a goto for many years.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:44 am to t00f
Dearest Friend of Friends,
I cannot find calamari on any New Orleans restaurant menu until 1977 when Vincenzo’s, a now closed Creole Italian haunt at 3000 Severn where The Pink Veil is today, offered it. Even then it was an appetizer. Schwegmann’s was the first grocer locally to offer calamari in 1978. It was 49 cents per pound.
Calamari is not a traditional Creole Italian menu item. It is an essential component of the NYNJ Italian restaurant scene.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
I cannot find calamari on any New Orleans restaurant menu until 1977 when Vincenzo’s, a now closed Creole Italian haunt at 3000 Severn where The Pink Veil is today, offered it. Even then it was an appetizer. Schwegmann’s was the first grocer locally to offer calamari in 1978. It was 49 cents per pound.
Calamari is not a traditional Creole Italian menu item. It is an essential component of the NYNJ Italian restaurant scene.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 10:48 am
Posted on 3/31/20 at 10:45 am to HogWalloper
quote:
was just about to ask. I think ol' autistic boy simply goes thru the GoogleBox to research his "ratings".
Seeing the irrational hatred of our resident poet laureate TulaneLSU has taught me much about human psychology and helped me to understand how people like Van Gogh went unappreciated by their contemporaries.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:11 pm to TulaneLSU
Dearest of dearest of dearest friend,
Where the frick does the sentence below reference pre 1977 menus? I can’t go into an Italian restaurant in NOLA without seeing fried calamari as an appetizer. And don’t find me some obscure menu.
Up Yours,
BigPerm
Where the frick does the sentence below reference pre 1977 menus? I can’t go into an Italian restaurant in NOLA without seeing fried calamari as an appetizer. And don’t find me some obscure menu.
quote:
The waitress recommended the calamari, which you rarely see on the menu of our Creole Italian restaurants, but is ever present in NY/NJ Italian restaurants.
Up Yours,
BigPerm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:58 pm to BigPerm30
Friend,
I referenced several classic Creole Italian restaurants including Irene’s, Liuzza’s, Mosca’s, Napoleon House, Rocky & Carlo’s, Liuzza’s by the Track, and Kenner Seafood). These follow the NOLA tradition of not offering calamari. While some NOLA Creole Italian restaurants now offer calamari, rarely as it is, none do so as an entree. The NYNJ equivalents almost always offer this dish as an entree. If my observations on the differences between NYNJ and NOLA Italian food traditions offend or upset you, perhaps I can offer you a bowl of my Perfect 10 Ezekiel 24 chicken rice soup as a peace offering.
Best,
TulaneLSU
I referenced several classic Creole Italian restaurants including Irene’s, Liuzza’s, Mosca’s, Napoleon House, Rocky & Carlo’s, Liuzza’s by the Track, and Kenner Seafood). These follow the NOLA tradition of not offering calamari. While some NOLA Creole Italian restaurants now offer calamari, rarely as it is, none do so as an entree. The NYNJ equivalents almost always offer this dish as an entree. If my observations on the differences between NYNJ and NOLA Italian food traditions offend or upset you, perhaps I can offer you a bowl of my Perfect 10 Ezekiel 24 chicken rice soup as a peace offering.
Best,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:52 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:
If my observations on the differences between NYNJ and NOLA Italian food traditions offend or upset you, perhaps I can offer you a bowl of my Perfect 10 Ezekiel 24 chicken rice soup as a peace offering. You can come pick it up from my house. Just come right in when you get here. I’m trying to maintain my social distance after all. Ignore the dimly lit nature of your surroundings. I know that can be disconcerting for some, but mother suffers from such terrible head aches when the lights are too bright. I’ve left your soup right at the bottom of the basement stair case. Please don’t mind the soft ethereal Gregorian chants playing or the flickering of the 1000 candles down there. I so look forward to you having you here.
FIFY
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:58 pm to TulaneLSU
Very interesting list from an obviously well traveled food adventurer.
I would like to see the Top 10 things readers should know about TulaneLSU.
Does your work allow you these adventures or are you a man of inherited means? Do you have as a hobby the history of food establishments? Just curious to know more about such an eclectic as you.
I would like to see the Top 10 things readers should know about TulaneLSU.
Does your work allow you these adventures or are you a man of inherited means? Do you have as a hobby the history of food establishments? Just curious to know more about such an eclectic as you.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:34 pm to I B Freeman
quote:
I would like to see the Top 10 things readers should know about TulaneLSU.
1) mid to late 40s
2) High School Education
3) Works in retail (bed bath and beyond, target, etc)
4) has never had relations with a human (male or female)
5) lives with his mom
6) enjoys cooking in a crockpot
7) socially introverted
8) has a disdain for mind altering substances (alcohol, drugs, etc)
9) likes to copy Yelp review and post them on tigerdroppings.
10) Has a minimum of 5 cats.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:09 pm to BigPerm30
Friend,
Only three of the above are correct. Mr. Freeman, I am flattered by your kindness and inquiries. I am far too uninteresting to make a top ten about myself. Perhaps a decade ago. Bits and pieces are distilled in nearly every post however.
On the ongoing topic of calamari, which is odd but interesting in a national pizza list. Roy Calamari was one of New Orleans’ top feather weight boxers in the 1930s finishing with a 44-28-8 record. Most of his matches, including the famed matchup with Kid Adams, were held at Coliseum Arena, an 8000 seat arena at 401 North Roman. It was modeled on Madison Square Garden and hosted many of New Orleans’ big boxing matchups back when boxing was a big part of neighborhood New Orleans culture. It was torn down in 1960.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Only three of the above are correct. Mr. Freeman, I am flattered by your kindness and inquiries. I am far too uninteresting to make a top ten about myself. Perhaps a decade ago. Bits and pieces are distilled in nearly every post however.
On the ongoing topic of calamari, which is odd but interesting in a national pizza list. Roy Calamari was one of New Orleans’ top feather weight boxers in the 1930s finishing with a 44-28-8 record. Most of his matches, including the famed matchup with Kid Adams, were held at Coliseum Arena, an 8000 seat arena at 401 North Roman. It was modeled on Madison Square Garden and hosted many of New Orleans’ big boxing matchups back when boxing was a big part of neighborhood New Orleans culture. It was torn down in 1960.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:12 pm to TulaneLSU
Your command of New Orleans history reminds me of Buddy Stahl.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:22 pm to TulaneLSU
Dearest Friend,
My great great uncle beat Roy Calamari's arse. CSB. Not kidding.
Yours,
Perm
My great great uncle beat Roy Calamari's arse. CSB. Not kidding.
Yours,
Perm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 6:54 pm to TulaneLSU
quote:
Granted, there aren’t many good restaurants in Birmingham, or Alabama, for that matter.
Why must you hurt the ones that you love?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:19 pm to TulaneLSU
Not a single Detroit pizza on your list? List is useless.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:18 pm to brgfather129
Friend,
I have never been to Detroit, so I cannot comment on any pizzerias there. I have, however, been to Little Caesar's. It's my second favorite chain pizza behind Domino's.
Back to the story of Roy Calamari, the prize fighter whose great great uncle BigPerm defeated (you thought I didn't know about that didn't you, friend?).
Calamari was rising in the ranks at the young age of 24. But his career hit a road bump, losing his last three bouts. The biggest bump and bang of his career came on a muggy night, July 31, 1937. Roy went into one of his favorite saloons, The Brown Leaf. Located at 2336 Dumaine -- where Phillis Wheatley Elementary is now, just across the street from Willie Mae's (est. 1958), which we have discussed in this thread -- it was just half a mile from his home boxing arena, The Coliseum Arena. Calamari, like I am now, was Mid-City through and through.
Roy entered the bar owned by Walter Dandie. But that night, Roy did not leave by his own power. Apparently, Dandie and Calamari had beef that went back a long time. A bar owner and a boxer getting violent in those days meant the Mafia was usually involved. Reminds me a little of Rockly Balboa's early career.
According to Dandie's recounting, Calamari entered The Brown Leaf with a knife. He drew the knife on Dandie. Dandie says he quickly grabbed his gun behind the counter. In his words, he, "Begged Calamari to leave." But Calamari continued to advance, with a large knife in hand.
Dead men tell no tales, so Dandie put two bullets in Calamari's gut. Calamari was rushed to Charity Hospital -- the old Charity, as Big Charity, which stands empty today, wasn't opened until 1939. Calamari died hours later.
Dandie was arrested and charged with manslaughter. Just ten days later, he was exonerated. The kicker was Dandie was a former policeman and semi-pro shot putter. Dandie lived another 32 years in freedom, dying at the age of 89.
The moral of this entire Top 40 pizzas in the U.S.A. list, in a round about way, illustrated in the tragic death of a man named Calamari, is avoid the Devil's drink and bars.
Friendly,
TulaneLSU
I have never been to Detroit, so I cannot comment on any pizzerias there. I have, however, been to Little Caesar's. It's my second favorite chain pizza behind Domino's.
Back to the story of Roy Calamari, the prize fighter whose great great uncle BigPerm defeated (you thought I didn't know about that didn't you, friend?).
Calamari was rising in the ranks at the young age of 24. But his career hit a road bump, losing his last three bouts. The biggest bump and bang of his career came on a muggy night, July 31, 1937. Roy went into one of his favorite saloons, The Brown Leaf. Located at 2336 Dumaine -- where Phillis Wheatley Elementary is now, just across the street from Willie Mae's (est. 1958), which we have discussed in this thread -- it was just half a mile from his home boxing arena, The Coliseum Arena. Calamari, like I am now, was Mid-City through and through.
Roy entered the bar owned by Walter Dandie. But that night, Roy did not leave by his own power. Apparently, Dandie and Calamari had beef that went back a long time. A bar owner and a boxer getting violent in those days meant the Mafia was usually involved. Reminds me a little of Rockly Balboa's early career.
According to Dandie's recounting, Calamari entered The Brown Leaf with a knife. He drew the knife on Dandie. Dandie says he quickly grabbed his gun behind the counter. In his words, he, "Begged Calamari to leave." But Calamari continued to advance, with a large knife in hand.
Dead men tell no tales, so Dandie put two bullets in Calamari's gut. Calamari was rushed to Charity Hospital -- the old Charity, as Big Charity, which stands empty today, wasn't opened until 1939. Calamari died hours later.
Dandie was arrested and charged with manslaughter. Just ten days later, he was exonerated. The kicker was Dandie was a former policeman and semi-pro shot putter. Dandie lived another 32 years in freedom, dying at the age of 89.
The moral of this entire Top 40 pizzas in the U.S.A. list, in a round about way, illustrated in the tragic death of a man named Calamari, is avoid the Devil's drink and bars.
Friendly,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 9:47 pm
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