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Seafood Mislabeling and Steps to Fight It
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:15 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:15 am
I've seen a few threads over the years discussing the fraudulent labeling of seafood. I just saw a serious eats article about it and wanted to share it with the board.
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I'm glad this issue is starting to get more attention. The things restaurants and markets get away with in terms of labeling is ridiculous. I would imagine that this would be an issue near and dear to many people in Louisiana, but I don't ever really hear it brought up that much.
Do you think that Louisiana has less of a problem in this area for seafood sourced in this area? I'd like to think that our fishermen and restaurants don't engage in this type of fraud.
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I'm glad this issue is starting to get more attention. The things restaurants and markets get away with in terms of labeling is ridiculous. I would imagine that this would be an issue near and dear to many people in Louisiana, but I don't ever really hear it brought up that much.
Do you think that Louisiana has less of a problem in this area for seafood sourced in this area? I'd like to think that our fishermen and restaurants don't engage in this type of fraud.
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:25 am to therick711
It is a really big deal for people who are growing or catching a product here in the USA.
For example, my FIL is a rice farmer and has to follow some fairly strict regulations about growing his crops. This raises the cost of farming. In places like China and much of Asia, there are no restrictions. On a trip to Vietnam, he saw that people's home plumbing was going straight into the rice field for fertilizer. That product can go on a shelf next to his. If mislabeled, it brings down the value of everyone's product.
The same applies to crawfish, catfish, etc.
On a funny note, while in the Bahamas, I had a guy from Michigan ask me if I liked Trappy's "Louisiana Hot sauce." He was shocked to learn that I had never even heard of it. It is made in New Jersey or somewhere, but puts a tag on it of Louisiana (style) hot sauce. The style is in very small print. I think that has since been changed due to litigation.
For example, my FIL is a rice farmer and has to follow some fairly strict regulations about growing his crops. This raises the cost of farming. In places like China and much of Asia, there are no restrictions. On a trip to Vietnam, he saw that people's home plumbing was going straight into the rice field for fertilizer. That product can go on a shelf next to his. If mislabeled, it brings down the value of everyone's product.
The same applies to crawfish, catfish, etc.
On a funny note, while in the Bahamas, I had a guy from Michigan ask me if I liked Trappy's "Louisiana Hot sauce." He was shocked to learn that I had never even heard of it. It is made in New Jersey or somewhere, but puts a tag on it of Louisiana (style) hot sauce. The style is in very small print. I think that has since been changed due to litigation.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:29 am to CoachChappy
The problem of primarily geographically deceptively misdescriptive labeling has been around for a long time for sure. I remember when all sparkling wine was labeled as Champagne.
Seafood fraud is tough because, as the article indicates, most people don't buy or see whole fish, and wouldn't know what they were looking at in many cases. Some restaurants don't help either, pushing things like Talapia as high quality and exotic when it is anything but.
Seafood fraud is tough because, as the article indicates, most people don't buy or see whole fish, and wouldn't know what they were looking at in many cases. Some restaurants don't help either, pushing things like Talapia as high quality and exotic when it is anything but.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:32 am to therick711
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Some restaurants don't help either, pushing things like Talapia as high quality and exotic when it is anything but.
Our special tonight is talapia.
OOOOH! Talapia, that's fun to say.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:33 am to CoachChappy
Delightful! I bet that doesn't come out of a pond that is used for sewage at all!
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:34 am to therick711
I've been reading up on that too. It sucks. Unfortunately I've started cutting a lot of restaurant seafood out of my diet unless it's a place like Peche. Just use common sense. If any place serves tilapia, they aren't concerned about providing the customer with quality seafood. Look at your average bonefish grill menu. It's the epitome of the problem. Everything on the menu is bullshite. They proudly serve tilapia but claim to have 'Kobe beef,' 'Chilean sea bass,' and 'Maryland crab cakes.' Fraud.
It's kind of funny though. Some places won't lie about the geographic origins, they'll just dress it up with meaningless adjectives and the uninformed consumer will fall for it. 'Cedar plank Atlantic salmon' sounds exotic, but it's low quality. On the other hand, sushi places routinely labeling bottom feeder fish as 'white tuna' is bullshite.
It's kind of funny though. Some places won't lie about the geographic origins, they'll just dress it up with meaningless adjectives and the uninformed consumer will fall for it. 'Cedar plank Atlantic salmon' sounds exotic, but it's low quality. On the other hand, sushi places routinely labeling bottom feeder fish as 'white tuna' is bullshite.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 9:38 am to REG861
Escolar being served in the US is such bullshite. Everywhere else in the civilized world they don't consume that nasty, ex-lax fish. Why are we still serving this toilet fish?
The real problem with the mislabeling comes from when you try to buy seafood at your market of choice. You think you're getting wild caught and you might be getting steelhead.
The real problem with the mislabeling comes from when you try to buy seafood at your market of choice. You think you're getting wild caught and you might be getting steelhead.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:33 am to therick711
My personal issue with it is I have very specific fish related allergies. I can eat some fish and not others. If I can't trust what's being sold to me then that puts me at risk.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:39 am to Powerman
The statistics appear to indicate you shouldn't trust what you're being sold.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:45 am to CoachChappy
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I had a guy from Michigan ask me if I liked Trappy's "Louisiana Hot sauce." He was shocked to learn that I had never even heard of it. It is made in New Jersey or somewhere, but puts a tag on it of Louisiana (style) hot sauce.
Trappy's was founded in New Iberia in 1898 by a former McIlhenny employee. The peppers were grown on Avery Island. I've known about this product all my life. Where have you been?
Wikipedia
Posted on 9/30/16 at 10:56 am to Stadium Rat
We don't consume Louisiana style hot sauces imported from Colombia where I'm from.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:03 am to therick711
i generally don't eat seafood when i dine out ... i once thought that really was the only think i should eat since i can grill a decent steak or cook some chicken myself and buying seafood in many places is a bit tough ... after reading a similar article a few years ago, i decided to not order seafood except for a few places ...
on a side note, there was this article in USA Today about asian carp ... would be nice if that fish is all the article implied, esp since it's fairly plentiful ...
on a side note, there was this article in USA Today about asian carp ... would be nice if that fish is all the article implied, esp since it's fairly plentiful ...
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:08 am to tiderider
I'll eat Asian Carp, I just worry unscrupulous people will label it as halibut or grouper.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:26 am to Stadium Rat
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Trappy's was founded in New Iberia in 1898 by a former McIlhenny employee. The peppers were grown on Avery Island. I've known about this product all my life. Where have you been?
It must not have been Trappy's then, because the bottle I saw said made in New Jersey
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:56 am to therick711
My way to combat fraud.
Go fishing more often.
Once a year we also buy a couple hundred pounds of shrimp from a guy straight off the boat.
Go fishing more often.
Once a year we also buy a couple hundred pounds of shrimp from a guy straight off the boat.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:58 am to therick711
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Steps to Fight It
My personal steps involved vast amounts of money spent catching ALL the fish in eat.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:01 pm to DonChowder
I like that idea, but I'm not sure I can catch Salmon down here.
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