Started By
Message

re: Roux. Anybody else do this

Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:05 pm to
I don’t know about using that for a roux. Seems like it would burn with how hot a roux gets.

When I do a gumbo, I use Chef Paul’s fried chicken method. It will leave bits of fried stuff in the oil, and fond on the bottom of the pot. I’ll strain the oil, then deglaze the pot with some stock or beer, and reserve all of the scrapings to be dumped into the gumbo during the cooking process (along with the strained out fried bits). But the oil itself (grape seed with the rendered sausage and chicken fat) is strained clean before the roux is started.

I don’t think using old fried stuff like that would be good in a roux.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

When you make fried chicken gumbo, do you mean battered and fried, or naked and fried?




Skinless and I use seasoned flour only. I follow PP's recipe on that. Sometimes, I use skinless with bone in and once fried, I simmer the bones for stock. If in a hurry, I use skinless boneless.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
5034 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:46 pm to
I do the Donald Link fried chicken gumbo method, which has you use chicken with skin and bones and lightly fry it, use that oil for your roux, then drop the entire pieces into the gumbo to slow cook once the stock is incorporated. Remove the chicken towards the end, pull off the skin, remove the chicken from the bones then add just the meat back. Really great gumbo.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89339 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

I don't know about multiple fries, but this isn't that far from the Paul Prudhomme method where he fries the chicken, then makes his roux from the remaining oil and dregs.


This is what I do. But I strain the oil to get all the bits out of it. They burn when making a roux.... Ask me how I know . I have about 4 cups of "seasoned" oil in mason jars in my pantry to use for making gumbo, that way I don't have to fry the chicken before making the roux.
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3333 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 9:11 pm to
OP I fried a bunch of chicken Friday night. I have a fryer that has has two baskets and holds a decent amount of oil. Nothing fancy but it does have a temperature adjustment and does what I need it to. After I fried up all that chicken in peanut oil I put the lid on it and turned it off to cool down and clean later. Saturday afternoon I drained and strained the oil. It was only used once. The sediment stuck on the bottom after I drained the oil out looked like a roux. I tasted it and it tasted like a roux. I've always used the strained chicken oil to make my chicken and sausage gumbo roux. But as I was scraping that roux looking stuff off the bottom of my fryer into the garage can I was thinking the same thing that it sure looked like a roux and it wasn’t bitter but I've never tried to use that before as my roux. I don’t think your crazy I know exactly what you are talking about. Bare in mind my oil was only used once and was strained the next day. To me what I was throwing away had the consistency of say a roux in a jar. It looked just like a roux in the jar to be more descriptive. OP what I scraped into the garage probably could have been used as a gumbo roux but I've always been scared to try that because I don’t know anyone personally that’s tried to do that.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
3463 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:52 am to
Have any of you fried off your sausage for gumbo and used that oil for your roux? I just toss it but often wonder if I’m screwing up.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:58 am to
quote:

I drained the oil out looked like a roux. I tasted it and it tasted like a roux


A roux is flour and oil. Of course it looked and tasted like a roux. Flour for a roux costs you $1? I just don’t see the desire to keep the crap that falls off fried food for a roux. That flour is more than pure flour. You have moisture from the food, seasoning from the food, if you used an egg wash then you have that in the flour.

Why wouldn’t you make your roux pure and use $1 worth of fresh flour?
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3333 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:33 am to
quote:

Why wouldn’t you make your roux pure and use $1 worth of fresh flour?


Did I say I was going to use it as a roux? No. I stated I use the oil from the fried chicken when I make a chicken and sausage gumbo. I did note what I scrape out of my fryer and into the garbage can looks like roux out of the jar after it’s cooled down and hardened up overnight. I also noted I can understand the OP’s curiosity if that would work for a roux but I’ve never tried to do that before for the exact reasons you noted. I make my roux the normal way: oil, flour, stir. It does peak my curiosity on how bottled roux is made that I see in these grocery stores.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:41 am to
The OP said he wants to use the flour as a roux, I was not referring to you.

I’ve seen the grocery store bottled roux made in processing plants. They use jacketed steam kettles with a mixer to heat flour and oil. Then they pour it into jars. Pretty simple.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
14064 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:49 am to
Since the OPs thread is not going as planned I thought I’d toss this out for what I’m going to try maybe this weekend.

I been trimming the fat off boneless skinless thighs (fam don’t love the fat like I do lol). I take that and render it down for some chicken tallow (Schmaltz) and been storing it in the freezer until I have enough to make my roux. I get the big packs from wallmarks and I can get about a 1/3 cup of oil when it’s done.

Reason for me is I know putting whole bone and skin on chicken in the gumbo imparts a great flavor, but I loath digging out chicken parts when I eat. I know, put it in a bag or some shite…but I figure the flavor from rendered chicken fat and bone stock should cover me. I’ll use it for other chicken dishes that needs oil as well like stew.

Bonus toss some Cajun seasoning on it when it comes out the oil for some crackling.

Start in a cold pot on simmer and stir.









Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5576 posts
Posted on 1/18/22 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

I don't know about multiple fries, but this isn't that far from the Paul Prudhomme method where he fries the chicken, then makes his roux from the remaining oil and dregs.


This is basically what I do and it makes super dark and smokey flavor. It's amazing. Use some cheap white wine a few times to loosen the brown crusties at the bottom and scrape a bit. Then cook down your veggies in that stuff.
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3333 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:16 am to
quote:

I’ve seen the grocery store bottled roux made in processing plants. They use jacketed steam kettles with a mixer to heat flour and oil. Then they pour it into jars. Pretty simple.


Interesting. I’d love to see such an operation out of curiosity.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80798 posts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:10 am to
quote:

No chance of scorching. But y’all do it the way your toothless, ignorant paw paws did it.
You're a sensitive little guy, aren't you?
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 2Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram