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Question about acquisition and reselling of "rare" beers
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm
I'm pretty ignorant on this but have been curious lately.
What is to stop the owner of a bar or restaurant from say...going to Ambassador when Ghost comes out, buying some, and reselling at his establishment at markup cost?
The same for KBS, etc?
Thanks.
What is to stop the owner of a bar or restaurant from say...going to Ambassador when Ghost comes out, buying some, and reselling at his establishment at markup cost?
The same for KBS, etc?
Thanks.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:41 pm to TigerWise
So there's state laws where, if busted, would cause them to lose their license to sell alcohol at their establishment?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:43 pm to ragincajun03
Had me some of that delicious KBS yesterday NOMZ
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:27 pm to ragincajun03
my answer to your question is that beer is for drinking and fetishizing a particular brand or brew is stupid
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:30 pm to ragincajun03
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So there's state laws where, if busted, would cause them to lose their license to sell alcohol at their establishment
There are federal (or at least used to be) laws that would prevent the retail outlet from acting as a distributor like that--it could probably also work against the restaurant for not buying through an authorized distributor.
It's a little archaic--from the post prohibition era. Breweries used to own their own bars and could sell their products exclusively. For some reason, the powers that be thought this wasn't acceptable, so now the producer, distributor, and retailer have to be separate--though until the onslaught of microbrewing, AB, Miller-Coors, etc. had tight control of their distribution and would often penalize their "independent" distributors for carrying products that infringed on their market share.
TL;dr--yes there are rules against it, but with a small batch like Ghost, I doubt it would matter much in the eyes of anyone enforcing the rules
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:26 pm to MoonrakerElite
I'm curious how much is state or federal laws. I know In New York a large majority of restaurants have access to private collections to back vintages and some of the best wine lists purchase wines through auctions to replenish limited supply and back vintage items.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:20 am to lilwineman
It's state law. Wikipedia has an entry on the three-tier system that most states use. LINK
Summary: The three-tier system of alcohol distribution is the system for distributing alcoholic beverages set up in the United States after the repeal of Prohibition. The three tiers are producers, distributors, and retailers. The basic structure of the system is that producers can sell their products only to wholesale distributors who then sell to retailers, and only retailers may sell to consumers.
The only state with a privately operated retailing and distribution system that does not require any form of three-tier system is the State of Washington. In Washington, retailers may purchase alcoholic beverages directly from producers...
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Some states (not Louisiana) chose to become alcoholic beverage control jurisdictions. In those states, part or all of the distribution tier, and sometimes also the retailing tier, are operated by the state government itself (or by contractors operating under its authority) rather than by independent private entities. Thus the ABC stores you see in some places.
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It seems to be the states with politicians who crow the loudest about being business friendly and capitalist and anti-regulation that somehow have the most backwoods, business stifling, dumbass alcohol laws.
This is mainly because the distributors and large producers make major donations to politicians, who keep protectionist laws in place that protect the antiquated system and hinder the ability of small players like craft brewers from competing.
Summary: The three-tier system of alcohol distribution is the system for distributing alcoholic beverages set up in the United States after the repeal of Prohibition. The three tiers are producers, distributors, and retailers. The basic structure of the system is that producers can sell their products only to wholesale distributors who then sell to retailers, and only retailers may sell to consumers.
The only state with a privately operated retailing and distribution system that does not require any form of three-tier system is the State of Washington. In Washington, retailers may purchase alcoholic beverages directly from producers...
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Some states (not Louisiana) chose to become alcoholic beverage control jurisdictions. In those states, part or all of the distribution tier, and sometimes also the retailing tier, are operated by the state government itself (or by contractors operating under its authority) rather than by independent private entities. Thus the ABC stores you see in some places.
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It seems to be the states with politicians who crow the loudest about being business friendly and capitalist and anti-regulation that somehow have the most backwoods, business stifling, dumbass alcohol laws.
This is mainly because the distributors and large producers make major donations to politicians, who keep protectionist laws in place that protect the antiquated system and hinder the ability of small players like craft brewers from competing.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:24 am to Twenty 49
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This is mainly because the distributors and large producers make major donations to politicians, who keep protectionist laws in place that protect the antiquated system and hinder the ability of small players like craft brewers from competing.
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