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Question about acquisition and reselling of "rare" beers

Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29942 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:29 pm
I'm pretty ignorant on this but have been curious lately.

What is to stop the owner of a bar or restaurant from say...going to Ambassador when Ghost comes out, buying some, and reselling at his establishment at markup cost?

The same for KBS, etc?

Thanks.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:31 pm to
Laws
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29942 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:41 pm to
So there's state laws where, if busted, would cause them to lose their license to sell alcohol at their establishment?
Posted by Lake Vegas Tiger
Lake Vegas
Member since Jun 2014
3299 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:43 pm to
Had me some of that delicious KBS yesterday NOMZ
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50868 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:27 pm to
my answer to your question is that beer is for drinking and fetishizing a particular brand or brew is stupid
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:30 pm to
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So there's state laws where, if busted, would cause them to lose their license to sell alcohol at their establishment


There are federal (or at least used to be) laws that would prevent the retail outlet from acting as a distributor like that--it could probably also work against the restaurant for not buying through an authorized distributor.

It's a little archaic--from the post prohibition era. Breweries used to own their own bars and could sell their products exclusively. For some reason, the powers that be thought this wasn't acceptable, so now the producer, distributor, and retailer have to be separate--though until the onslaught of microbrewing, AB, Miller-Coors, etc. had tight control of their distribution and would often penalize their "independent" distributors for carrying products that infringed on their market share.

TL;dr--yes there are rules against it, but with a small batch like Ghost, I doubt it would matter much in the eyes of anyone enforcing the rules
Posted by lilwineman
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
1053 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:26 pm to
I'm curious how much is state or federal laws. I know In New York a large majority of restaurants have access to private collections to back vintages and some of the best wine lists purchase wines through auctions to replenish limited supply and back vintage items.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21538 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:20 am to
It's state law. Wikipedia has an entry on the three-tier system that most states use. LINK

Summary: The three-tier system of alcohol distribution is the system for distributing alcoholic beverages set up in the United States after the repeal of Prohibition. The three tiers are producers, distributors, and retailers. The basic structure of the system is that producers can sell their products only to wholesale distributors who then sell to retailers, and only retailers may sell to consumers.

The only state with a privately operated retailing and distribution system that does not require any form of three-tier system is the State of Washington. In Washington, retailers may purchase alcoholic beverages directly from producers...

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Some states (not Louisiana) chose to become alcoholic beverage control jurisdictions. In those states, part or all of the distribution tier, and sometimes also the retailing tier, are operated by the state government itself (or by contractors operating under its authority) rather than by independent private entities. Thus the ABC stores you see in some places.

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It seems to be the states with politicians who crow the loudest about being business friendly and capitalist and anti-regulation that somehow have the most backwoods, business stifling, dumbass alcohol laws.

This is mainly because the distributors and large producers make major donations to politicians, who keep protectionist laws in place that protect the antiquated system and hinder the ability of small players like craft brewers from competing.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
10293 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:24 am to
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This is mainly because the distributors and large producers make major donations to politicians, who keep protectionist laws in place that protect the antiquated system and hinder the ability of small players like craft brewers from competing.


TRUTH
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7292 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:32 am to
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NOMZ


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