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Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:34 am to
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:34 am to
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For kids and adults 2400mg and for middle aged and up 1500 which is really hard to hit.

Wow, I'm not doing that bad really. Thanks!
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28885 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:39 am to
At subway right now for lunch. Got the subway club but as a salad. No cheese, no bacon, no fatty dressings (did oil and vinegar).

Spinach, red onion, tomatoe, cucumber, jalapenos, bell pepper with roast beef, turkey, and ham.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77946 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 11:50 am to
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I have read the average person eats about 3500 a day here in the US. Processed food is just full of sodium.


i should mention i avoid this in the same way i avoid restaurants. its tougher to make everything from scratch to be sure..but again..how bad do you want to lose weight? how bad will you feel if that processed food you've been eating has been sabotaging you the entire time?

veggies, dairy, meats, fruits. stick with those and try to avoid 'pre-made' stuff like the plague.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:04 pm to
I lost 60+ pounds with just diet and basic exercise... kinda hit a roadblock after that, so I started a 'Couch to 5K' plan with a neighbor, and the weight has started to come off again now that we're really into the running part of the process... about 25 or so from my goal now.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:14 pm to
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but again..how bad do you want to lose weight? how bad will you feel if that processed food you've been eating has been sabotaging you the entire time?



You have to remember, lots of us got to this point cause were are a lazy lot.

For the most part, I do avoid processed food except cheese.

I also eat the same thing for dinner about 10 to 12 days then switch off for the next 10 to 12. To stifle my lazy instinct, I make a soup in a crock pot and store it in the freezer and fridge and that is my dinner for the next 10 to 12 days.

Lunch is always the same. Hamburger with a few onions on top of a big arse spinach salad tossed with olive oil and red wine vinegar.

I don't have the money or the motivation to make a different meal every day.

I know most people would cheat out of boredom the way I have been doing it, but I am usually so hungry at meal time I would eat a plate of brusells sprouts and be happy about it. And I would normally retch just smelling brussels sprouts being cooked.

Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

At subway right now for lunch.

I did subway just like I did yesterday in the other thread.

Roasted chicken sandwich with mustard, lettuce, tomato, pickles, jalapenos, salt and pepper (on wheat). 640 calories according to their website.

No chips or soft drink. I'm drinking my 4th 20oz glass of water so far for the day though.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:17 pm to
I walk everyday around the neighborhood at a 4 mph pace for at least an hour. If not I walk for an hour same pace on the treadmill with the incline at 9 degrees. I watch Food Network while Im doing this.

I am going to start trying to get two hours in even if I have to break it up morning and evening.
Posted by ItalianTiger83
25 miles from Death Valley
Member since Apr 2009
650 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:18 pm to
Myth- What have you done to lose the weight. Any certain diet plan/workout routine?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:36 pm to
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I walk everyday around the neighborhood at a 4 mph pace for at least an hour. If not I walk for an hour same pace on the treadmill with the incline at 9 degrees. I watch Food Network while Im doing this.

When you feel up to it... try this: Couch To 5K running plan. I walked a lot as well, and hit a plateau as far as the weight loss goes, then started this plan. I'm finishing up week 7 this evening, and the pounds have started to come off again. I had never been much of a runner, but now I kinda look forward to it. Especially with the nice weather lately. And everytime I got to a day and just didn't think I could do it, I've been able to. Some are worse than others, but always managed to finish.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Myth- What have you done to lose the weight. Any certain diet plan/workout routine?



When I started, I felt absolutely horrible. With the weight and blood pressure doing household chores exhausted me. So I realized I needed to get to work on the problem.

I started with Atkins for the first month in March and lost about 19 pounds. Atkins doesn't pay too much attention to calories which I think is a bit BS so I kept it under 1500 calories.

I got a bit lazy and started adding carbs because I couldn't find the right meals to eat that were easy to cook. Also moved out of Atkins since I did cheat a few times and that knocks you out of Ketosis so I decided it was just too hard to keep doing Atkins and occasionally going out to dinner one or twice a month.

I still lost weight but not as fast.

The chart of my weight loss was a pretty slope down until july. In July I had a bit of a breakdown and probably cheated 7 times. 4 in one week. Normally I would have quit at this point but I got back up on the horse and started to lose again.

But not as fast. In July August and September I lost about 26 pounds, although a big chunk of that was in the last 10 days (9 pounds).

I had two very long 8 day plateaus with zero weight loss and no cheating, so on the 21st I went back to straight up Atkins with 1200 calories a day and I have lost 9 pounds since I did that.

My main goal is under 1500 calories a day but I am usually around 1300.

As I said when I started, I felt like crap so I just couldn't do any exercise. It has taken until my last visit to the doctor a month ago, for them to get the optimal dosage and meds for my blood pressure. Just went yesterday and it was 120 over 80, so they finally have me where I need to be.

I don't know if it is the cooler weather, but I have felt energetic for the first time in years, so I started walking on Sunday and also started doing 5 sets of crunches a day.

So maybe I finally hit a number where my body felt good with the blood pressure finally under control.

My biggest tip is for people not to toss in the towel when they have a few bad days of eating or weight gain. That is what I always did. And what I did in July when I had a few Taco Bell incidents.

Also, when I go out with friends or family, I don't limit myself. I also don't go crazy, but I eat what I want. One bad meal every 10 or so days will not wreck your diet as long as you keep it to 1 in 10 days.

I know....TLDR but he asked.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Jabberwocky
tumtum tree
Member since Sep 2007
6923 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 12:56 pm to
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. If not I walk for an hour same pace on the treadmill with the incline at 9 degrees


here's a good treadmill workout if anyone is interested:

incline speed time
1.0 3.0 1-3 min
3.0 4.0 3-7
5.0 3.5 7-11
7.0 4.0 11-15
8.0 3.3 15-19
9.0 3.8 19-23
10.0 3.0 23-27
0 3.0 27-30

it was spaced out all nice when i typed it but when i posted it the spaces went away.
This post was edited on 9/29/10 at 12:57 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71967 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 1:36 pm to
As far as subway goes, I like to buy the footlong, but eat 6in for lunch and save the other 6 for either dinner or lunch the next day.

eat a 6in with an apple and you should be full. Eat slow and eat the apple 10-15 after the sandwich. many people see the footlong and want to eat the whole thing
Posted by ItalianTiger83
25 miles from Death Valley
Member since Apr 2009
650 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 2:44 pm to
Are you doing a lot of cardio/weight training on top of that to lose?

At the same time as I worry about eating to many calories/day, I also worry about not eating enough. I heard that eating to few cals can deter weight loss as well. You haven't had any issues with this?

Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Are you doing a lot of cardio/weight training on top of that to lose?



No. As I said in my book length post, I had no energy to do that due to the high weight and blood pressure.

As I said, I have started some minor exercise on Sunday.

When you weigh as much as I did, just cutting calories will cause a lot to drop off.

Now that I have lost over 70 pounds and my blood pressure appears to be under control, I will slowly start adding exercise, but I have been in terrible shape for a long time so it will take time to get into any semblance of decent shape.

Yes, if you don't eat enough calories, your body can go into famine mode. I have hit several plateaus in the last six months. I had to 8 day periods with no loss, which is what made me shift back to Atkins.

From what I have read on the net, 1000 calories appears to be the number you do not want to go under. Some people say 1500.

If you are a patient person and don't need to see constant results, then staying around 1500 is the way to go, but I need to see results to keep motivated which is why I am always closer to the 1200 number.

You need to take a diet just like people in AA take not drinking, one day at a time. Don't think of it like I am going to be hungry forever, just get yourself through the current day.

A diet is finite in length no matter how much you have to lose. I should hit my optimal weight around March which will be the one year mark for the diet. Most people won't need to work nearly that long if they stick to it.

The tunnel may be long, but you can see just a bit of light... it won't last forever.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77946 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

At the same time as I worry about eating to many calories/day, I also worry about not eating enough. I heard that eating to few cals can deter weight loss as well. You haven't had any issues with this?

see the comments in this thread about metabolic confusion. its eating the same LOWER CALORIES every single day that cause stalls and for your body to 'turn down' its metabolism.

working out is certainly a deterrent against this as your body will HAVE to feed your muscles; but varying the calories (tons of sites explain this) will help keep your body off-balance and losing weight.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

but varying the calories (tons of sites explain this) will help keep your body off-balance and losing weight.



This is why I feel no guilt the couple of time I go out each month to dinner with friends. It is the metabolic confusion meal.

So I don't count those nights as cheats.

I only count it a cheat, if I hit a fast food place on my own. And even those cheats probably in the long run might have been helpful in confusing my body.

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 3:09 pm to
quote:


Now that I have lost over 70 pounds and my blood pressure appears to be under control, I will slowly start adding exercise, but I have been in terrible shape for a long time so it will take time to get into any semblance of decent shape.


Check out the Couch to 5K plan I linked earlier... I wasn't in shite for shape and now in less than two months I'm running 2+ miles multiple times per week with no problem. It works, for real... the whole point is to build your endurance up slowly so you don't burn yourself out early and start to hate it.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Check out the Couch to 5K plan I linked earlier.


I'll check it out.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 3:12 pm to
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This is why I feel no guilt the couple of time I go out each month to dinner with friends. It is the metabolic confusion meal.

So I don't count those nights as cheats.


I got down to very low bodyfat using cheats. And I'm a fattie at heart. Using cheat days certainly didn't deter me. I know it helped because a few days after a cheat during extreme dieting I would always lose weight.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 9/29/10 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Check out the Couch to 5K plan I linked earlier... I wasn't in shite for shape and now in less than two months I'm running 2+ miles multiple times per week with no problem. It works, for real... the whole point is to build your endurance up slowly so you don't burn yourself out early and start to hate it.

I'm digging out the stopwatch tonight and giving it a whirl. Sounds like a good plan. Might kill me, but a good plan!
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