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Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:04 am to Evil Little Thing
Evil, what type of diet you decide on is up to you and your preferences. Junky, myself and others can help you set it up no matter which you choose though.
What are your goals for the new year? How strict do you want to be? Food preferences? Do you get tired as hell after eating carbs? What are your current stats? Do you lift? How many times a week?
Anybody wanting help for the new year, answer the questions above and we can help. I expect an influx of new posters in this thread for the new year so all the regulars will need to help the newer guys
What are your goals for the new year? How strict do you want to be? Food preferences? Do you get tired as hell after eating carbs? What are your current stats? Do you lift? How many times a week?
Anybody wanting help for the new year, answer the questions above and we can help. I expect an influx of new posters in this thread for the new year so all the regulars will need to help the newer guys
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:18 am to Lazy But Talented
Lazy I think you have a good plan. When you go strict Keto after go essentially zero carbs if possible. And try to eat above what the "tdee" calculators tell you maintenance calories are. This will allow hormone levels to reset without weight gain. Do that for a week and then lower to 1800 or do the extreme rfl diet again.
I really think you are going to be surprised how much fat you take off in those 7 days. The study that it is based on had the people doing 8 hours of exercise per day. 1 hour of the hand crank machine then 7 hours of walking. Protein was only .5 or so per lbs per person. The people lost an average of 4.5 lbs the first 4 days and 3lbs over the next 3. This was all pure fat but they also lost an average of 3lbs lean tissue. So Lyle changed protein requirements to the same as the rapid fatloss diet and understanding most can do 8 hours of walking a day changed it to 4 or if you can do more, do it. The diet beta group and those after have lost an average of 4.5 lbs of fat and virtually zero lean mass. So it works and crazy well. 4.5 lbs of pure fat is crazy for a seven day period.
I really think you are going to be surprised how much fat you take off in those 7 days. The study that it is based on had the people doing 8 hours of exercise per day. 1 hour of the hand crank machine then 7 hours of walking. Protein was only .5 or so per lbs per person. The people lost an average of 4.5 lbs the first 4 days and 3lbs over the next 3. This was all pure fat but they also lost an average of 3lbs lean tissue. So Lyle changed protein requirements to the same as the rapid fatloss diet and understanding most can do 8 hours of walking a day changed it to 4 or if you can do more, do it. The diet beta group and those after have lost an average of 4.5 lbs of fat and virtually zero lean mass. So it works and crazy well. 4.5 lbs of pure fat is crazy for a seven day period.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:21 am to Evil Little Thing
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As long as it doesn't include mandatory chicken fat beverages, I'm in.
Gosh, drama much. Nobody is saying you have to. People were shocked at keto and fat burning. Why be so shocked people live on meat and water?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:21 am to Yung_Humma
Well I wouldn't say I coined American hungry as I read it somewhere one time but I am the one that posted it here. Glad to see it helped you in your relationship with food. And glad you are only 20lbs left till goal weight.
What's the plan for the new year?
What's the plan for the new year?
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 10:23 am
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:23 am to lsu777
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Junky, myself and others can help you set it up no matter which you choose though.
I'll hang around to answer questions. In no way am I wanting to push people. I do want people to know all options.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:31 am to Junky
Well I will say people thought I was crazy bringing up the fat fast which is essentially what you are talking about. It I will support you 100% that you can go crazy low cals and if you stick to the 90%+ of cals from fat you will not lose muscle, absolutely none and you will shed fat faster then you ever thought possible. Like 10lbs with 5-6 being pure fat in 12 days. Outside of the rapid fatloss diet it's the only diet that can claim this.
I have done the diet but only managed 8 days twice and yes it sucks and it's extremely hard but it works crazy good. I will be using it today through Sunday to get into deep ketosis before starting the rfl for 4 weeks.
And to those talking about drinking chicken fat, don't do it if it sicks you out. Do bulletproof coffee all day and a recipe from the fat fast cookbook that is on my google drive.
If y'all want to undo the damage from the holidays in 10days or less you have two choices really, extreme version of rapid fatloss handbook diet or the fat fast junky and I have been discussing. They are the only diets known that will allow you to keep virtually all lean muscle tissue and shed 5+ pounds of pure fat in 10 days.
Or you can go the more moderate route, up to you.
I have done the diet but only managed 8 days twice and yes it sucks and it's extremely hard but it works crazy good. I will be using it today through Sunday to get into deep ketosis before starting the rfl for 4 weeks.
And to those talking about drinking chicken fat, don't do it if it sicks you out. Do bulletproof coffee all day and a recipe from the fat fast cookbook that is on my google drive.
If y'all want to undo the damage from the holidays in 10days or less you have two choices really, extreme version of rapid fatloss handbook diet or the fat fast junky and I have been discussing. They are the only diets known that will allow you to keep virtually all lean muscle tissue and shed 5+ pounds of pure fat in 10 days.
Or you can go the more moderate route, up to you.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:54 am to lsu777
Actually stick to eating about 1700 calories like I did when I got down to 200 the first time. Basically not have all the "oh it's someone's birthday so I can drink and eat a lot" etc
Posted on 12/28/16 at 11:03 am to lsu777
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Lazy I think you have a good plan.
Do you have a throwaway email I can send you questions on?
I'm ok with eating the same thing for 7 days as I will already be miserable to begin with. I just need to tweak the meal plan you posted as I don't eat a couple of those things.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/28/16 at 11:48 am to Junky
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Gosh, drama much. Nobody is saying you have to. People were shocked at keto and fat burning. Why be so shocked people live on meat and water?
Okay, my tongue-in-cheek tone was obviously not conveyed over text. I don't actually think anyone is making drinking chicken fat mandatory. Nor am I knocking eating meat & water. I was kidding. I'm pro-keto & pro-meat.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:25 pm to Lazy But Talented
Yea tdlsu777 at gmail
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:26 pm to Evil Little Thing
shite eat only bulletproof coffee for a few days and chicken fat will sounds like the best thing in the world 
Posted on 12/28/16 at 1:51 pm to Evil Little Thing
I've been following this thread here and there.
I want to drop some weight and "get healthy" whatever that means. Thing is, all my blood work comes back good, no high blood pressure, normal blood sugar, last couple EKGs were textbook perfect. But I'm getting older and know that I need to clean up my eating. My exercise is mostly walking, about 45 mins a day 4-5 days a week. My biggest health concern is I need to lose weight. Probably about 40-50 pounds.
So, how do I protect myself against heart disease, my self-proclaimed irrational fear, and lead a healthier life. I rarely drink and have never been a smoker. My dr tells me to increase my veggies and decrease my fat. Which I know is pretty much outdated science. I love meat, eggs, and cheese. I also love bread, cookies and other carbs and find it difficult to cut those out completely. How do I even get started?
Even though I know that meat and fat and cholesterol are not really the enemy, it's so hard to break through what has been ingrained in me since I was a kid.
TLDR: need to lose weight and clean up my diet. Where do I start?
I want to drop some weight and "get healthy" whatever that means. Thing is, all my blood work comes back good, no high blood pressure, normal blood sugar, last couple EKGs were textbook perfect. But I'm getting older and know that I need to clean up my eating. My exercise is mostly walking, about 45 mins a day 4-5 days a week. My biggest health concern is I need to lose weight. Probably about 40-50 pounds.
So, how do I protect myself against heart disease, my self-proclaimed irrational fear, and lead a healthier life. I rarely drink and have never been a smoker. My dr tells me to increase my veggies and decrease my fat. Which I know is pretty much outdated science. I love meat, eggs, and cheese. I also love bread, cookies and other carbs and find it difficult to cut those out completely. How do I even get started?
Even though I know that meat and fat and cholesterol are not really the enemy, it's so hard to break through what has been ingrained in me since I was a kid.
TLDR: need to lose weight and clean up my diet. Where do I start?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:11 pm to NoHoTiger
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I love meat, eggs, and cheese
Great start.
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I also love bread, cookies and other carbs and find it difficult to cut those out completely.
It is because you are addicted to then, much like a cocaine addiction. Cravings are hard to overcome. What helped me was to cook lots of good food to always have on hand. It will be tough, but worth it.
Nearly everyone here recommends veggies with lots of fiber i.e. broccoli, asparagus, bell peppers as a good side dish. Some of the guys here follow a ketogenic diet. Forget what me and LSU 777 are discussing, it is way over the top right now.
Saturated fats have nothing to do with heart disease, So don't be afraid of meat, bacon, and eggs.
If you want to lift, 777 can help. The OP has links about current science on cholesterol and heart disease.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:15 pm to Junky
Thanks junky. I have noticed that if I can avoid the first cookie, I can avoid them all. But if I eat one cookie, then I want all the cookies.
I'm going to read the link in cholesterol and heart disease.
I'm going to read the link in cholesterol and heart disease.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:17 pm to NoHoTiger
Work on diet and exercise simultaneously
Get invested
See results and you will want more
You can do it. You can do it all . night . long
Get invested
See results and you will want more
You can do it. You can do it all . night . long
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:31 pm to NoHoTiger
You're going to get a lot of keto/low carb advice here, and that does work just fine and I have nothing against low carb if that's what one wants to do.
I want to provide an alternate perspective, though. Flexible dieting. It's not low fat, it's not low carb. It IS high protein.
Go here:
LINK
Get your TDEE. Subtract 500 from the TDEE. Now, in a tracking app like MyFitnessPal, put in that # as your daily calorie goal. Set your macro goals to 30% protein, 35% fat, 35% carb. If you decide to start weight training, change that to 40% protein, 30% fat, 30% carb. Eat plenty of meat and vegetables and throw in fruits and a little bit of carbs. You don't have to obsess over being 100% spot on with the macros, just use them as a general guide.
Here's an example.. (Note: I am not making a statement about your age,height or weight, this is purely an example)
30-YO female, 5'5 200 lbs, light exercise, with a sedentary office job:
TDEE - 2,239 calories
Daily Calorie Goal - 1739 calories
Daily protein goal - ~130g
Daily carb goal - ~152g
Daily fat goal - ~67g
This style of eating is very flexible and fairly effortless to eat. Just have to remember to track your foods.
I am very much in the same boat. My SO is someone who can eat a couple of chips and leave the bag alone for weeks. I can't keep junk in the house.
I want to provide an alternate perspective, though. Flexible dieting. It's not low fat, it's not low carb. It IS high protein.
Go here:
LINK
Get your TDEE. Subtract 500 from the TDEE. Now, in a tracking app like MyFitnessPal, put in that # as your daily calorie goal. Set your macro goals to 30% protein, 35% fat, 35% carb. If you decide to start weight training, change that to 40% protein, 30% fat, 30% carb. Eat plenty of meat and vegetables and throw in fruits and a little bit of carbs. You don't have to obsess over being 100% spot on with the macros, just use them as a general guide.
Here's an example.. (Note: I am not making a statement about your age,height or weight, this is purely an example)
30-YO female, 5'5 200 lbs, light exercise, with a sedentary office job:
TDEE - 2,239 calories
Daily Calorie Goal - 1739 calories
Daily protein goal - ~130g
Daily carb goal - ~152g
Daily fat goal - ~67g
This style of eating is very flexible and fairly effortless to eat. Just have to remember to track your foods.
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I have noticed that if I can avoid the first cookie, I can avoid them all. But if I eat one cookie, then I want all the cookies.
I am very much in the same boat. My SO is someone who can eat a couple of chips and leave the bag alone for weeks. I can't keep junk in the house.
This post was edited on 12/28/16 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:39 pm to Hulkklogan
I am so jealous of people like your SO. If I want ice cream, I avoid it as long as I can. Then I have to somewhere and get 1 scoop and leave. I cannot have ice cream in the house or I'll eat the whole thing. I can make myself sick on sugar. That's my biggest obstacle.
Ita something I need to decide how I want to do and just do it. I want to be around a long time to see my niece grow up. And I don't want to be a sickly old person. I want to be healthy and active.
Ita something I need to decide how I want to do and just do it. I want to be around a long time to see my niece grow up. And I don't want to be a sickly old person. I want to be healthy and active.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 2:44 pm to Hulkklogan
I went to that website and put in my info. Thanks for that.
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