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re: On Do We?
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:28 pm to BigDropper
Posted on 2/24/21 at 10:28 pm to BigDropper
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#8 pork
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4102 grams
Did you mean 9lb without the bone?
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:48 am to BigDropper
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Can't wait to see how that turns out
Thicc
Pretty much ran the same seasoning but added some water to add moisture and help the protein extraction.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 4:06 am to NOLAGT
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Did you mean 9lb without the bone?
Yep, whole thing was #10, #9 deboned.
Chonkey Boi is that the 1/2"
Posted on 2/25/21 at 5:49 am to NOLAGT
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protein extraction
Not sure what you mean by this. Water doesn’t force proteins to come out from inside the meat.
But yes, always add water as you lose moisture during the cooking process. Your goal is to add enough to cover the % you lose so when your product is finished, it’s back to the beginning weight and not dry.
(Unless you’re selling it for a profit, then your goal is to add enough so you cover your loss, plus an extra 10–15% )
Posted on 2/25/21 at 6:46 am to SixthAndBarone
I was under the impression that adding ice cold water helped keep the meat cool while mixing and you wanted the meat cold to better extract proteins that help it bind and retain moisture. Or something like that.
No ¾” took that pic for you LOL. Did the fat and some fattier chunks through a ½”
½ on the left ¾ on the right
Ok good because when I was doing my math it wasn’t jiving with what I remembered you putting LOL. I did the smaller one so it was about 8.25 deboned. About a pound heavier after water and seasoning.
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Chonkey Boi is that the 1/2"
No ¾” took that pic for you LOL. Did the fat and some fattier chunks through a ½”
½ on the left ¾ on the right
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9# deboned
Ok good because when I was doing my math it wasn’t jiving with what I remembered you putting LOL. I did the smaller one so it was about 8.25 deboned. About a pound heavier after water and seasoning.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 6:54 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:04 am to NOLAGT
Ice is used to keep the fat cold so it doesn’t “smear” and cause an undesirable appearance. Ice is definitely a part of sausage making, when needed. Or just keep your meat cold while grinding and mixing and skip the ice.
Proteins are important for moisture.
Part of a salt molecule will bind with the protein while another part of the salt molecule binds with water. In short, salt helps meat hold water.
Proteins are important for binding.
Proteins will fuse together when heated (cooked). So the idea of wanting more protein to help bind is correct.
Cutting or grinding the meat and increasing surface area gives you more proteins on the surface since you have more surface area. Maceration or tumbling (beating the meat - insert joke here) will force proteins to come to the surface.
Your procedure is correct, keep doing what you’re doing. I hope this helps you understand why. Keep making great smoked sausage!
Proteins are important for moisture.
Part of a salt molecule will bind with the protein while another part of the salt molecule binds with water. In short, salt helps meat hold water.
Proteins are important for binding.
Proteins will fuse together when heated (cooked). So the idea of wanting more protein to help bind is correct.
Cutting or grinding the meat and increasing surface area gives you more proteins on the surface since you have more surface area. Maceration or tumbling (beating the meat - insert joke here) will force proteins to come to the surface.
Your procedure is correct, keep doing what you’re doing. I hope this helps you understand why. Keep making great smoked sausage!
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 7:06 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:19 am to SixthAndBarone
Yes to all of that. I just thought I had read along the way that ice cold water “also” helped cool/keep cool the meat while mixing and its was easier (among other things) to get your meat sticky after beating it (joke inserted)
I didn’t add crushed ice to the meat this time like my hotdogs. Well I did run a little crushed ice through the grinder to get the rest of the meat out of the auger. Something else I just came across that worked splendidly.
I didn’t add crushed ice to the meat this time like my hotdogs. Well I did run a little crushed ice through the grinder to get the rest of the meat out of the auger. Something else I just came across that worked splendidly.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:37 am to NOLAGT
You make hot dogs? Are you emulsifying the meat? That’s the difference between a hot dog and a sausage, for hot dogs, the fat and meat is emulsified together. Just curious and interested if that’s what you’re doing.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:45 am to SixthAndBarone
Yes I made hotdogs for the last cooking challenge samichs (check the sticky link above)
Yes I emulsified (pita lol). That’s why I added the crushed ice to that one and ground it a few times to help emulsify it. I was hoping I wouldn’t have to use my tiny food processor...but I had too.
Yes I emulsified (pita lol). That’s why I added the crushed ice to that one and ground it a few times to help emulsify it. I was hoping I wouldn’t have to use my tiny food processor...but I had too.
This post was edited on 2/25/21 at 7:46 am
Posted on 2/25/21 at 7:51 am to NOLAGT
Awesome! I’m impressed you emulsified.
That’s why it drives me nuts when idiots come here to say the local sausage companies make hot dog quality sausage. It’s simply not true. They don’t understand it and won’t accept the truth.
That’s why it drives me nuts when idiots come here to say the local sausage companies make hot dog quality sausage. It’s simply not true. They don’t understand it and won’t accept the truth.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 3:18 pm to NOLAGT
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I couldn't get beef casings
I use the fibrous summer sausage casing for Andouille. Try P&S Seasoning for beef casings.
Posted on 1/10/22 at 7:19 am to BigDropper
Very nice. Thank you. If you used fresh garlic, what weight would you use for this amount of meat ?
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:02 pm to BigDropper
Hate to bump an old thread, but wanted to give a big shout out to BigDropper on this recipe! As temps begin to cool others may have this in mind. I did mine in January and it turned out great. Won’t buy andouille ever. I‘ll be repeating soon. Thanks BD. (And Sixth&B, the beef middles I used, while natural , should not be considered edible. TIC!). This year I’ll be using 42-45mm hog casings this year.
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This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/13/22 at 1:50 pm to DocHolliday1964
quote:Sorry I didn't see this question sooner. I would use .25-5% of fresh garlic by weight, depending on how much garlic flavor you want.
If you used fresh garlic, what weight would you use for this amount of meat
Nice cross section.
I plan on making it again this year and think I will hand-cut the fatback to get a more definition in the final product.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:38 pm to BigDropper
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Nice cross section
Thanks. The larger diameter plate makes all the difference in getting the “traditional” look,
I forgot that I’d asked about the garlic! Thank you for the reply and for the recipe. I’m not sure that I will change it much now that I’ve tasted the original.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 9/13/22 at 2:51 pm to DocHolliday1964
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I’m not sure that I will change it much now that I’ve tasted the original.
Thanks, It's a variation of my grandfather's recipe. He's a Bourgeois from Richard in Acadia Parish. He and my great uncles made it all the time growing up.
Around Thanksgiving and Christmas, the sausage would include a % of venison. I like that version best.
The only change I made to the original recipe was to convert imperial volume measurements to metric mass and calculate percentages. I also reduced the cayenne by 3/4 (75%) to make it more public.
Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:13 pm to BigDropper
I love it! My Mom taught at Richard school in the late 60’s. My first school as well. A very small world. I probably met your kin at various boucheries around the community.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 3:14 pm
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