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Need help selecting stove and oven for my new house

Posted on 12/12/13 at 1:06 pm
Posted by tb.cl_at
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/12/13 at 1:06 pm
I'm looking for a well built and reliable drop in gas range and also a stackable double oven. I do alot of cooking and want a quality stove and oven. I have been looking at these Thermador ovens and stoves.

Has anyone here used these or own one that can give me some advice. What are the prices, do they work well, long lasting, etc.? Or do you have any other brand that you would recommend?

TIA
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 1:15 pm to
I bought a BlueStar for my new kitchen. I wanted high BTU unsealed burners, an oven large enough to hold full sheet pans, and NO electronics. I didn't want fancy appearance and mediocre performance; I didn't want loads of dials/switches/LED displays. BlueStar fit the bill.

There is no substitute for looking, in person, at actual stoves. Find a showroom with the brands you're considering and go take a look. Take a look at Dacor, Wolf, BlueStar...I think that Viking and Capital Culinarian try to compete (mostly unsuccessfully) at that level as well. Each has its champions and detractors--but you need to figure out how you cook and what best fits your needs.

Better showrooms will have some ranges connected to gas--you can fire 'em up and see how it goes.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
21407 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 8:34 pm to
I'm building. I needed to purchase these two appliances early for their cutout dimensions. I did indeed, like the Bluestar. I settled a bit. This is what I bought. Congratulations on your new home.

PT9550SFSS GE Double Ovens


Hypotheory htrt366ng
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
34464 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:18 pm to
Gas. Knobs only. Computer panels eventually fudge themselves.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47368 posts
Posted on 12/12/13 at 10:54 pm to
I have a KitchenAid drop in gas with 4 burners and gas grill in the middle. I grill inside all the time now. Love this appliance. Has a low temp burner as well as a simmer burner that will also boil water on no time. Goes from very low to extremely high.

Make sure your double ovens are big and fit large baking sheets. Mine are. I don't have a convection oven. When I replace my double ovens, I'll get one, but my ovens are in excellent shape after 20 years.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25734 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 12:06 am to
I have been doing tons of research on this very subject. It is very difficult because the more you research, the more differing opinions you see. And every single brand has multiple complaints.
My problem is I can get Electrolux and Whirlpool for cost but I am not sure I want to go that route. I also don't want to spend 7k on a range.
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 12:08 am
Posted by Sailorjerry
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/13/13 at 8:29 am to
I have a convection oven and never use it
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24351 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 8:33 am to
I have kitchenaid as well, 6 burner gas stove and the double ovens. I like them, good looking and very efficient, not sure on the prices, we bought the house from a builder but didnt build it ourselves.

you will be looking at a big price jump if you are looking to get into the top level brands though.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Member since Dec 2012
13510 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 8:38 am to
I wound up buying all Thermador for my house thats being built. Every time I read reviews online there are bad and good about every brand. Knowing how the internet is I think people who have problems are more willing to get online...research there issue...see others...and add to them. People who have no issues dont bother usually. In my current house I have all Kenmore elite...supposed to be good...I have had every thing fixed multiple times including the washer and dryer. If it wasn't for my sears warranty I would have paid for the stuff two fold.

I have not used my stuff yet (just poured slab) but I got the Thermador stuff now because of there deal going to the end of the month. I needed the whole kitchen and saved a decent amount. I went with the pro-grand steam range and a single wall oven/micro/warming drawer altho I may not install the warming drawer. Also got the fridge dishwasher and vent (w/ motor).

I am looking forward to trying the steam convection oven!

This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 8:41 am
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
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Member since Jan 2004
24351 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:22 am to
we use our warming drawer a lot, if you entertain you'll be surprised how often youll throw something in there, I would install it
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5800 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:27 am to
BlueStar is a bad arse range/oven combo.

Going to put one in next kitchen.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13510 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 9:37 am to
quote:

we use our warming drawer a lot


I think I will use it too...reason for not using that particular 30" one is there is a smaller one built into the pro-grand steam oven. Also I will end up with 2 full size ovens and the smaller convection only or conv/stem oven. So I am thinking I can probably use one of the ovens as a "warming drawer". Just depends if we want the 30" warming drawer under the micro/oven...or just a regular drawer.

I hear a lot of good about bluestarr too. Looked at it but wanted my kitchen to be all the same (ocd thing lol) and rather closed burners for cleanup I guess. But I do hear those clean easy...
This post was edited on 12/13/13 at 9:39 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69064 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 10:02 am to
when the power relay board goes out on those GEs (and it will) you are looking at a $700 repair.

Best advice for reliability..

The cheaper and simpler the unit the longer it will last, if you buy for looks be prepared to pay for maintenance. Unless you get a viking.

Posted by rsb831
Member since Oct 2007
481 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 10:27 am to
We just finished our kitchen renovation. We went with the Thermador package as well. The Pro-grand steam range is incredible. Have only cooked on it for 2 weeks now, but did a 15 pound turkey in the convection/steam oven and it was amazing. Skin was golden crispy and the white meat was moist and juicy.

Had a big party Saturday and grilled beef tenderloins. Had half of of one left over and used the reheat setting last night. Still pink in the center but "steaming" hot. The salesman said the best thing about it was reheating meat - think he was right.

Wife has also made some bread and biscuits and they came out great.

The burners are powerful, but the extra low setting works well to. Just have to get used to hearing it click on and off.

There is some clean up with the steam oven, you have to empty the reservoir and mop up the water in the bottom of the oven after every use, but it's not bad.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13510 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 10:45 am to
quote:

We just finished our kitchen renovation. We went with the Thermador package as well. The Pro-grand steam range is incredible. Have only cooked on it for 2 weeks now, but did a 15 pound turkey in the convection/steam oven and it was amazing. Skin was golden crispy and the white meat was moist and juicy.

Had a big party Saturday and grilled beef tenderloins. Had half of of one left over and used the reheat setting last night. Still pink in the center but "steaming" hot. The salesman said the best thing about it was reheating meat - think he was right.

Wife has also made some bread and biscuits and they came out great.

The burners are powerful, but the extra low setting works well to. Just have to get used to hearing it click on and off.

There is some clean up with the steam oven, you have to empty the reservoir and mop up the water in the bottom of the oven after every use, but it's not bad.


I like the sound of that! I have read others using a steam oven end up using it most of the time after they try it. I was torn between the steam oven built in the range or the wall version. Went with the range so I can have 2 full sized ovens as well...if one has to be a big warming drawer.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Member since Dec 2007
21407 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:09 am to
quote:

when the power relay board goes out on those GEs (and it will) you are looking at a $700 repair.


So, you suggest the extended warranty?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:18 am to
I'm a serious home baker--I would love to have a steam oven, but have not heard anything good (long term) about home steaming units. I researched steaming ovens: maintenance was a concern, as was the load of electronics subjected to steam proximity (seems like a recipe for long term failure, IMHO).

Another pitch for the BlueStar: there isn't a component on the unit that I can't fix or replace with nothing more than a screwdriver or wrench. I won't ever need to call a repairman: I can fix that sh*t myself.

Sealed vs unsealed is an interesting consideration. I used sealed burner stoves for years--it seems easier to clean until you make the switch to unsealed. Any crap that boils over or drops onto the BlueStar surface falls through and ends up in the lower drip pan. I line the lower drip pan with aluminum foil and simply remove and replace when it gets fusty. The entire top of the stove is made of cast iron modular parts....you can scrub the hell out of them with a wire brush, if you so desire. Way way way easier to clean than a glass sealed top surface, or one of those molded alumnium single piece tops.

In short, I'll never have to buy another range. Ever. Didn't mind spending the bucks once I realized it was a lifetime purchase.
Posted by rsb831
Member since Oct 2007
481 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:20 am to
quote:

I like the sound of that! I have read others using a steam oven end up using it most of the time after they try it. I was torn between the steam oven built in the range or the wall version. Went with the range so I can have 2 full sized ovens as well...if one has to be a big warming drawer.



The one advantage I could see of the wall steam oven is the clean up would be easier - don't have to bend down as far to mop up the excess water in the bottom of the oven - but it really isn't bad. The range comes with a big sponge that you drop in the well to absorb it.

We didn't go with warming drawer other than the one in the range. Have a 30" one in the outdoor kitchen if we need that much room. Also the micro-drawer has a "keep warm" function. Haven't tried it yet, but could see were it would work great on casseroles and soups, but not everything.

We got the 30" column freezer and fridge. Great bicep workout. They have heavy duty doors.

Daughter thinks the coolest thing is the dishwasher that projects the remaining time on the floor.

Went with U Line ice maker, but actually like the ice our old Kenmore made. The U line makes indentations in the cubes, where the Kenmore cubes were solid.

For the bar/butler pantry area I went with the Monogram under-counter wine cooler and the beverage center. Liked the look of them better than the U Line and they were cheaper. The wine cooler is great, but the beverage center shelves are not adjustable. Wish it had more flexibility to adjust for beer bottles.

Minor complaints, just happy the project is finished.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69064 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:22 am to
quote:

So, you suggest the extended warranty?


yes

I had three GE power boards this month, making for a nice christmas for me.


Thermidors are great too, but I ate the stupid simmer control systems. A solenoid goes out, both left burners are useless, a pot switch goes out, both left burners are useless. Yes it's nice to be able to hold a small flame that can't blow out (thermidors like many newer ovens self re-light the stoves)

The only reason I say Thermidor is a step under Viking is the simmer controls.
Viking is like a 1980 oven on the inside, very simple and well made.

I love Dacor too, because I'm partial to the controls and I have a warranty repair contract with them. But when they break, they break bad. (on some the front panel costs over $800)

Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47368 posts
Posted on 12/13/13 at 11:29 am to
Give a lot of thought to what you like to cook and how your cook-your habits-when deciding.

I knew I needed a power burner because I cook large pots of gumbo. I knew I wanted an indoor gas grill to do quick grills when it's hot outside or just when I didn't feel like firing up the egg or the gas grill. Best thing I bought. I had to buy a very powerful exhaust for it, but I can flame that sucker and not a bit of smoke gets anywhere else in the kitchen. That exhaust sucks up everything. I've used the grill countless time for quick steaks, veggies, hot dogs, burgers etc... with the AC keeping me nice and cool for quick work night meals. When I'm not using the stovetop, it makes for a lot of extra counter space for prepping, as well.
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