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less common fish making it to restaurants

Posted on 7/3/19 at 11:03 am
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/3/19 at 11:03 am
Nice coverage of fishing from boat to restaurant in the Advocate/TP: LINK
Went to school w/Lance Naccio, glad to see he's managed to diversify into a more viable business as shrimp prices bottom out. Gotta agree w/his statement that we need a coop fish house in NO area for fishermen to sell direct to consumers.
Posted by Tiger inTampa
Tampa, FL
Member since Sep 2009
2171 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:24 pm to
Good article. Everyday Joe grinding and making it happen.
Glad more people are moving to other species. Had a discussion the other day about "trash" or "by-catch" with a guy. Like most he had never tried the fish I was telling him about (Bonita, rays, chopique, mullet, salt water cat etc.). His dad told him they were trash fish and he threw 'em back without a second thought. Told him he was missing some good eating.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9942 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:26 pm to
You have seena huge turn around on Sheepshead. They used to be trash and now I see it on menus everywhere.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89824 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:34 pm to
Tripletail and Monkfish
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11713 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:54 pm to
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mullet

Ground mullet taste great and are fun to catch. Started catching a lot of them on the beaches in GI over the past few years.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16551 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Ground mullet


Ground mullet and white trout are fantastic when fried fresh.

Most all species of fish are great to eat if eaten fresh and cooked properly. Different species of fish require different prep or cooking techniques.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11713 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 12:59 pm to
Yeah, I didn't really read the title of the thread. Not sure ground mullet could viably make it to the commercial market.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9942 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:16 pm to
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Tripletail


Tripletail is awesome, but commercial harvesting is limited by law I believe.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:20 pm to
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You have seena huge turn around on Sheepshead. They used to be trash and now I see it on menus everywhere.


Sheepshead & black drum replaced redfish on menus. Whether redfish needs to be restricted to non-commercial status is a topic for another thread.

The biggest takeaway for me was the negativity of the processor/middleman: he plainly didn't want to see fishermen enter into direct sales. But as an end consumer, that's what I want. I'd prefer to buy whatever's fresh from the guy who caught it than to buy the same old crap from a retailer who likes to move volumes of the same thing.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12829 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:25 pm to
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Sheepshead & black drum replaced redfish on menus. Whether redfish needs to be restricted to non-commercial status is a topic for another thread.



How tough are they to clean and filet?
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11713 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:38 pm to
Honestly depends on the technique you use.
I struggled for awhile until I watched a couple of youtube videos.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:40 pm to
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How tough are they to clean and filet?

PITA with a flexible blade like a filet knife. Easy peasy with a linoleum knife or other sharp, stiff blade. The late Frank Davis of NO popularized this method--you can probably google and find some videos of the technique.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:43 pm to
If they could just please make Tilapia as a menu choice go away.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12829 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Honestly depends on the technique you use.
I struggled for awhile until I watched a couple of youtube videos.



I've caught some an threw them back just because of how tough I heard there were to clean.
This post was edited on 7/3/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:49 pm to
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If they could just please make Tilapia as a menu choice go away.

Oh, good Lord, yes, please. I loathe it almost as much as I dislike pond raised catfish. All that stuff tastes like the feed....you know that smell when you open a fresh bag of cheap dog food like Ol' Roy? That's how tilapia/catfish taste to me.

Give me muddy, funky wild caught catfish full of pesticides, heavy metals, and dead guys fingers all day long over Purina-fed fishes.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
5803 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 1:52 pm to
In that article is a very important issue. Way too much fish is set aside for recreational purposes. It was a swift reaction against the “blackening phase” of Paul Prudhomme but certainly some more reds and speckled trout should be allowed to be sold commercially. Instead of being frozen and stored in someone’s back freezer after their yearly charter and out of town visit from Atlanta.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

I've caught some an threw them back just because of how tough I heard there were to clean.


Clean em backwards, tail to head, remove the filet then remove the hide. Same thing with Triggerfish.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27116 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:03 pm to
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I dislike pond raised catfish. All that stuff tastes like the feed....


I hate it too.......terrible. So hard to find good fried Catfish in a restaurant now.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38685 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:07 pm to
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If they could just please make Tilapia as a menu choice go away.


I refuse to eat it.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

In that article is a very important issue. Way too much fish is set aside for recreational purposes. It was a swift reaction against the “blackening phase” of Paul Prudhomme but certainly some more reds and speckled trout should be allowed to be sold commercially. Instead of being frozen and stored in someone’s back freezer after their yearly charter and out of town visit from Atlanta.

Preach, brother. But the GCCA and its successors own the LA legislature, and the weekend warrior fishermen won't give up an inch for hardworking guys like Lance.
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