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Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:32 am to
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8415 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:32 am to
Check out Global knives in the Sales Section.
Global Knoves on Sale
Posted by TastyJibblets
North of I-10
Member since Jun 2018
665 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:33 am to
Solid suggestion on the Kono they make some good stuff.
Check out Kitchenknifeforums.com and fill out the questionnaire. Tons of knowledgeable people there and the buy/sell/trade forum is great for used blades.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:51 am to
I've fallen in love with my Dalstrong Shogun Series X Gyuto 8". It's $130 so a large portion of your budget but, being a chef's knife, that's where most of your money should go anyway.

Excellent feel, super sharp blade, seems to retain edge with regular honing (had mine 8 months with heavy cooking and still sharp as shite), and it's one beautiful knife. This replaced my Wusthof Gran Prix II and it's been night and day. I still use the Wusthof for breaking down chickens and such due to its thicker blade but when chopping vegetables, preparing proteins, scoring, etc., the Dalstrong does amazing work.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:59 am to
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Solid suggestion on the Kono they make some good stuff


That's not a suggestion. That's a "look at me, I like to throw in unnecessary comments to make me feel important."
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:04 am to
quote:

But, if you want better steel and something made in a shop, not a massive factory then look at chefknivestogo


So what I've been reading is that it's basically stainless or a carbon metal knife. I'm not the only person using these knives and I'm gonna be the one that actually takes care of them. My wife or guest might put it in the sink and or put it in the dishwasher and I don't want it to rust. I'll trade a little sharpness and hardness for durability and rust prevention.
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6392 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:12 am to
Buy a stainless one...

But if you’re wife is going to put it in the dishwasher and you don’t want to sharpen it then you don’t want one from the site. However, there are some full stainless knives on that site. Get on the forum, sign up and follow the question recs. They will
point you to an option if there is one.

If you are going to spend money on a good knife you are still going to have to take care of it. You can’t put a shun in the dishwasher either. All knives have to be sharpened and if you are spending a little money on one you are going to need more than a steel.

Look at the Misono, MAC and Tojiros. I picked up the tojiro steak knives and they are badass. I have a buddy who grabbed a tojiro 210 gyuto as his first knife in the Japanese style and he enjoys it.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 11:34 am to
I plan on sharpening it but I'm just saying that it may get neglected due to unforeseen circumstances with guests and I don't want to ruin a good carbon knife. I plan to instill a good handwashing ritual with the better knives with the wife but shite happens especially since we have two 3 year olds.

Also, this main knife will be a utilitarian knife. Is a Gyuto going to be too thin?
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 11:35 am
Posted by Duane Dibbley
Red Dwarf
Member since Nov 2011
1569 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 1:46 pm to
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So what I've been reading is that it's basically stainless or a carbon metal knife.

I bought a Dojo Hayashi AS Nakiri 165mm from chefknivestogo last Christmas it's a san mai construction featuring Aogami Super steel in the core, and low maintenance stainless steel cladding, very low maintenance and the Aogami Super steel is amazing.
All I've had to do is touch it up with a steel, still sharp as the day I got it and I use it for everything.
Probably my favorite knife I've owned, great deal at seventy five dollars, well ninety with the sharpening service. (which I recommend)

Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 8:26 pm to
It sounds like the Wusthof Classic Ikon would be a good fit for you. Even if you get a stainless Japanese knife, running it through the dishwasher or bad technique is still going to chip the harder steel.

I have a Victorinox and love it. I also have some entry level Japanese knives, but I use the Vic. most of the time. I would get a Wusthof myself, but I like lighter weight knives.

A gyuto certainly can work for most everything. It kind of depends on what you want to use it for. I wouldn't cut anything that has bones in it because of chipping. The straighter profile also probably won't work (depending on what you get) for rock chopping things like herbs or garlic.

Overall, the Wusthof is a tank that can withstand a lot of abuse. You can get marginally better performance from a Japanese knife, but there can be a lot of fuss that comes with it, and in the end you have to ask yourself if you're a person who even values that.
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
Member since Aug 2008
6392 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Also, this main knife will be a utilitarian knife. Is a Gyuto going to be too thin?


Most will be, but some aren’t. That being said if you want to go through bone then it definitely isn’t the knife you want. There are options that will do most of the work you need, you just need to find the right steel/hardness combo. Many of the steel is too hard and or too soft. Take for instance, my Tanaka isn’t very brittle, but the blade itself will bend if it’s put in a bind. Ex: trying to use it to wedge something out like a core of a cabbage. That being said, I have a beater... a cold steel chef knife I have been having for probably 15yrs that I do the heavy lifting with.

I have a set of Shapton pro stones to sharpen
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 10:23 am to
I don't plan on going through bone as we don't do that often. I guess I can use my old knife sets chef knife to do that if needed or buy much cheaper chef, serrated, and paring and spend more on the gyuto.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Wusthof Classic Ikon would be a good fit for you.


I'm going to check those out as those looked interesting.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 10:16 pm to
I tested out the miyabi artisan from sur la table and really really liked it. Its 149 for the 8" chef and SG2 steel. Zwilling owns them and are made in Japan and have a lifetime warranty. I also really liked the wustof ikon. That handle is divine. Shun was good as well.
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
8802 posts
Posted on 10/5/18 at 10:25 pm to
I took my wife to this place in New Orleans and she picked out some knives after handling them. You might try to do that at a store that specializes in cutlery.

Coutlier in New Orleans

Bladesmiths and the knives they offer

Overall, I liked the place. I know I spent more for the knives than if I would have purchased them off Amazon, but I supported a local business with great customer service and selection.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/9/18 at 8:52 pm to
Got the miyabi artisan with the sg2 powdered steel. Freaking awesome.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6715 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 7:53 am to
I used to look for all these super cool knives, then saw where Donald Link used a $40 Victorinox. After a couple years, he just buys a new one. I bought one and it's just fine.
Posted by DBAG DREW
Member since Feb 2018
138 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 8:39 am to
Since you’re the only one that seems to care about this in your household, buy yourself one good chefs knife and keep it in the drawer. Then buy a cheap set of dishwasher safe knifes with pretty handles for your wife.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22164 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 8:50 am to
I actually took the wife to Sur la table and she picked out the Miyabi because of the handle and cutting. She really liked the Globals but I thought they were too light and small of a handle for me. She couldn't stand the Wustof Ikons. I just figured the Miyabi is a Zwilling product with a great warranty and has a very good SG2 metal that is about the same price as the R2/SG2 at places like Chef knives to go. It's also a local store so I can return or exchange easier.

I plan on getting some chef knives to go knives. Tojiro DP petty in about a 120mm and a Tojiro DP serrated bread knife.
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