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re: If Inbev started a brewpub concept

Posted on 5/15/18 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 7:56 pm to
If InBev buys them and nothing changes as far as flavor I will still buy the product, if it changes, well I have other options.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 8:22 pm to
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WTF? This is a hypothetical I assume.


If by hypothetical, you mean troll.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28227 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:35 pm to
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If by hypothetical, you mean troll.



That's harsh.

Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16845 posts
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:38 pm to
If you’ve convinced yourself there’s nothing wrong with InBev owning these breweries, good for you.

As for me, frick InBev and frick those breweries who sold their souls to the devil. And frick those “independent” distributors with giant Budweiser and Bud Light signs plastered on the side of the building.

I don’t want to support anything they have their hand in. Good for you if you can look past it.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30426 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 5:24 am to
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d frick those breweries who sold their souls to the devil. And


This is the only part I’d disagree with.

Founder has a chance to set his family up for generations. It’s a business, not a hobby. They’d be stupid not to sell.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21523 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:11 am to
US laws generally prohibit the manufacturers from owning the retail establishments, except for your small brewer tasting rooms and such.

UK allows it, and that's why there are fewer and fewer freehouse pubs. Most are captive or "tied houses" owned and operated by a big brewery and sell mostly their brand of beer.

I like our system better on this point. The rest of our three-tier system sucks and screws the consumer out of choices.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79821 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:31 am to
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I don’t want to support anything they have their hand in. Good for you if you can look past it.



Don't you support those distrubutors every time you buy a beer off the shelf or pimp their products for them?

Lets not pretend that Inbev is the only company that uses lobbyist to gain a competitive advantage. You still support companies that do the exact same thing.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 7:40 am
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16845 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 7:52 am to
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Don't you support those distrubutors every time you buy a beer off the shelf


Which is exactly why I want to see self distribution for these small breweries so I don't have to support those distributors.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30426 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:05 am to
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self distribution for these small breweries s


How does this work. Serious question.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79821 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:08 am to
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Which is exactly why I want to see self distribution for these small breweries so I don't have to support those distributors.



It's a hypocritical stance.

Boycott the big breweries and distributors by ONLY buying directly from the brewery itself.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 8:10 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79821 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:09 am to
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How does this work. Serious question.



Great business opportunity for someone to start a distributor that charges for delivery and stays out of the politics.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 8:10 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30426 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:11 am to
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Great business opportunity for someone to start a distributor that charges for delivery and stays out of the politics.


Or an opportunity to be found dead somewhere.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79821 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:13 am to
You still need a distributor for the breweries in La to have their footprint.

It does allow for some smaller breweries (Courtyard, Parleaux, Brieux Carre) to get restaurants and bars that would bring a lot more dollars.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102355 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:17 am to
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self distribution for these small breweries s


How does this work. Serious question.



It doesn't. Breweries want (and they should have the ability) the option to bypass the distributor and sell directly to retail. This especially would be nice for smaller breweries.

State senators had a senate bill in a committee last month to review and tabled it that would have made it possible.

The brewers came out to lobby but so did the distributors. This bill was dead before it hit their table.

There will probably, eventually, be a compromise.

Small breweries benefit the most with a change.

Most breweries need a distributor. If you see what NOLA brewing is doing, they are hitting up Htown with the small batch releases. They want to keep 365 product on the shelf over there and need the distro to make that happen in the current climate.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 8:18 am
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30426 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:18 am to
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It doesn't.


How WOULD it work.

Meaning, how would a small place ever get product out of their own neighborhood without a distributor?
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102355 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:20 am to
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How WOULD it work.

Meaning, how would a small place ever get product out of their own neighborhood without a distributor?


It doesn't in the current context.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79821 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:21 am to
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Meaning, how would a small place ever get product out of their own neighborhood without a distributor?



Pickup truck? Van? The bar comes and picks it up.

Barrelproof is close enough they would probably just walk it over.

A lot of places would be good with it staying within 5 miles and not having to run a bar to sell it.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 8:23 am
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104456 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:25 am to
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Meaning, how would a small place ever get product out of their own neighborhood without a distributor?


Load it up in a van and drive it to the places that want it.

Seems pretty simple to me.


Once they started getting outside of their metro area, then it makes less and less sense to self-distribute.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30426 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:34 am to
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Load it up in a van and drive it to the places that want it.

Seems pretty simple to me.


That's why I put "out of their own neighborhood" in the context.

I'm no expert, but buying vans, insurance, salaries for someone to drive beyond a few miles is expensive as hell. That was my point.

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Once they started getting outside of their metro area, then it makes less and less sense to self-distribute.


Again, that was my whole point and why I asked how it could work. This whole self distribute discussion is basically for local distribution?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79821 posts
Posted on 5/16/18 at 8:46 am to
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This whole self distribute discussion is basically for local distribution?



Yes. Kind of the point.

There are several homebrewers that have setups big enough to dip their toe in and start getting name recognition.

As it is now, you basically need a million dollars to get to the size that a distributor takes you on and sells your product.

So, you have to go all in and that keeps out people (such as BMoney) who have a shot at small time brewing, but shouldn't have to risk everything to do it.

Bottomline, not everyone wants to be a millionaire off a brewery. If you wanted to start a hot sauce company you have virtually no hoops to jump through.
This post was edited on 5/16/18 at 8:48 am
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