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re: Ideal weight
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:19 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:19 pm to lsupride87
quote:That's fine. No one is forcing you to.
But I put zero weight into it at all. None.
It's one number. No one should base their life on one number. However, that one number combined with others is a useful tool whether you think so or not.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 1:21 pm
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:20 pm to Winkface
You're so hormonal these days 
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:26 pm to Winkface
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Not to mention that everyone gets all riled up about a measure that they don't understand. Almost every doctor or scientist is going to agree with you that it's not the BEST measure available but it isn't total shite either.
Wouldn't that imply that we do in fact understand?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
No because you want to completely erase it from all use. No one that truly understands it wants to do that.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:34 pm to Winkface
quote:I really see no use for it. Watch what you look like, and measure your cholesterol, blood pressure etc and that is perfect. I see no reason this is used
No one that truly understands it wants to do that.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:34 pm to Winkface
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No because you want to completely erase it from all use. No one that truly understands it wants to do that.
Who is it serving? Answer cannot be "the average person."
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:38 pm to LNCHBOX
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Who is it serving?
medical professionals, insurance companies, etc that use statistics to keep track of general health of the populace
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:42 pm to Salmon
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medical professionals, insurance companies, etc that use statistics to keep track of general health of the populace
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The current BMI formula leads to confusion and misinformation, Trefethen believes. The height2 term divides the weight by too much when people are short, and by too little when they are tall. The result is short people being told they are thinner than they really are, while tall people are made to think that they are fatter than they are.
When Quetelet devised the BMI formula, there were no computers, calculators or electronic devices, so he opted for a very simple system. Trefethen does wonder, though, why institutions today on both sides of the Atlantic continue using the same flawed formula.
Perhaps "nobody wants to rock the boat", Trefethen suggested. Various agencies and institutions have agreed on something, which is comforting. There are probably other flawed formulae out there.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:42 pm to LNCHBOX
So there ya go. Proof that you don't understand.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:43 pm to LNCHBOX
so come up with a better system and you will be rich
until then, it serves a purpose
until then, it serves a purpose
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:44 pm to Winkface
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So there ya go. Proof that you don't understand.
Link? Or is my questioning who is served by a formula that I feel doesn't do what it claims to well enough your proof?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:44 pm to Salmon
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so come up with a better system and you will be rich
So unless I have a better answer, I can't say that it's flawed?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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I can't say that it's flawed?
what? everyone admits that its flawed
y'all say its useless and serves no one
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:47 pm to Salmon
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what? everyone admits that its flawed
y'all say its useless and serves no one
I can't criticize it if I don't have the answer?
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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I can't criticize it if I don't have the answer?
criticism is one thing
completely writing something off as useless is another
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:50 pm to Tigertown in ATL
If you came to that conclusion using BMI, it's garbage.
BMI kind of works when using it for large groups of people, but on an individual scale it's not that beneficial. Fat percentage is probably the best way to measure "ideal weight", but even then the heart is the limiting factor.
BMI kind of works when using it for large groups of people, but on an individual scale it's not that beneficial. Fat percentage is probably the best way to measure "ideal weight", but even then the heart is the limiting factor.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:51 pm to Salmon
Well, in my very first post in this thread I said I think ideal weight based off BMI is bullshite. I'm going to stand by my original post, because I still feel that way. There are better ways for doing it on an individual level, which is what the OP referenced.
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:51 pm to Salmon
quote:Tell me how it is useful to a person today? Dont bring up insurance companies, because that is not what we were discussing. I dont see how that formula has any use for a person trying to be healthy. I see none. I really dont
completely writing something off as useless is another
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:55 pm to lsupride87
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I dont see how that formula has any use for a person trying to be healthy. I see none. I really dont
like I said earlier, it was just meant to be a screening, and screenings are meant for larger sample sizes, so for an individual, its really not that useful as a measure of health
it could give someone a decent idea of a weight strive for though
Posted on 5/26/15 at 1:56 pm to Winkface
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No because you want to completely erase it from all use. No one that truly understands it wants to do that.
Adolphe Quetelet created this measurement back in 1835.
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