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re: Honing the Chicken and Sausage Gumbo

Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Richard Castle
St. George, La.
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:33 am to
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When I make my stock I add already smoked turkey necks and after about an hour remove from water, let cool then remove meat from bones. Add it back to the gumbo when adding chicken and sausage.


Posted by Richard Castle
St. George, La.
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:34 am to
quote:

I brown my sausage first to use the rendered fat in my roux.



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Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10252 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:37 am to
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When and how do you add the lemon juice?

Should I add a boullion cube to my stock instead of salt? or with a regular portion of s and p?
Lemon juice at the end.

And I like Better Than Bouillon chicken soup base much better than bouillon cubes. America's Test Kitchen rated it better tasting than store bought stock. Don't salt your stock as you're making it and get the saltiness in your gumbo exclusively from the soup base.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:39 am to
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Bouillon


why use this at all. the best bouillon in the world is no match for a homemade stock. especially one from a roasted carcass.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10252 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:02 am to
I'm not sure you're understanding what I'm saying. Yes, make homemade stock, just leave out the salt. Then make up for the lack of salt by adding the BTB. It greatly enhances the flavor, even better than the best homemade stock because it's so rich.

I suppose if you wanted to, you could take the time to make a double batch of homemade stock and then boil it until it's reduced in half, but that's pretty expensive, since you need twice the ingredients for a given amount of stock.

Try Better Than Bouillon. You'll be shocked how good it is.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:17 am to
Pre cut trinity and slap yo mama. Lol

If you're gonna brag about your gumbo, don't use bullshite ingredients.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:21 am to
quote:

make homemade stock, just leave out the salt. Then make up for the lack of salt by adding the BTB. It greatly enhances the flavor, even better than the best homemade stock because it's so rich.


I started doing this a few years ago and my gumbos are so much better. I even do it for some of my gravies.
Posted by Honky Lips
Member since Dec 2015
2828 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:22 am to
i understand what you're saying. i dont salt my stocks at all (i salt the dish i'm cooking), and i always reduce by 1/3 to 1/2.

I do use BTB, but its for large gumbos and jambalayas (30+ people) only out of sheer convenience. im not going waste my good homemade stock feeding the masses. the taste has never blown me away....you dont get any of that good smoked or roasted flavor. but in a 15 gallon gumbo it is handy. i never use the stuff in my home gumbos or jambalayas.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:23 am to
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I forgot that I usually add half hard boiled eggs in my gumbo at the end


HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11789 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:30 am to
TH03,

my gumbo is better than your fancy shite.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:32 am to
Using fresh ingredients is fancy?

Not putting a fricking hard boiled egg in is fancy?
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11789 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:33 am to
people love my gumbo...your's probably tastes like tomato water.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 11:55 am to
Are you smoking your own chickens? You could increase the smoke on them to get them smokier if your sausage isn't adding enough. You can also simmer the skin in the stock to increase the smoked flavor. Then defat the stock before using it. I'd try those things before using liquid smoke which has sort of an off putting flavor to me.

I haven't added lemon juice to gumbo, but on occasion, I add a few swigs of cider vinegar.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
26355 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:10 pm to
Like others have said, you need to brown your chicken and lightly brown your sausage before adding it to the pot.

I second Rat's suggestion of using better than boullion chicken base in addition to your stock. It's incredibly salty and a little goes a long way, so be careful.

I've had a gumbo that had oregano in it and it gave it a surprisingly good taste.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:14 pm to
Didn't he say he was using smoked chicken? Are you browning the smoked chicken?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94757 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:18 pm to
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Since going to thighs only, I like my gumbos a lot better.


this this and more this!!

also a little frying of lightly floured thighs in the oil you plan to make the roux with

thanks GRIS GRIS for that one!
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 12:19 pm
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18467 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:24 pm to
Make your own stock with smoked turkey necks and all of the usual aromatics.

Once you have achieved the darkest roux possible, temper your roux with only the onion and not the rest of the trinity. Doing it this way darkens the roux further as the bell pepper and celery's water content inhibits the carmelization of the onions that takes the roux to the next level.

Use only skinless boneless chicken thighs for your gumbo.
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1510 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:31 pm to
First off....as mentioned a couple times before....USE FRESH TRINITY. got damn boy...everybody know dat.
Add fresh cut parsley (cut the green onion and use in seafood gumbo)
Add fresh jalapeño
Use good andouille sausage (cut thin slices and then quarter those to get full use)
I feel like file' is best left for seafood gumbo

And to whoever said, "put an egg in it"
what the hell? Eggs don't go in gumbo EVER. This isn't egg drop soup.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:37 pm to
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what the hell? Eggs don't go in gumbo EVER. This isn't egg drop soup.


Really? Putting boiled eggs in a gumbo is very common with old school cajuns as a way to "stretch" the gumbo.
Posted by Celtic Tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
682 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:44 pm to
If you're looking for smoke

quote:

Stop in Lake Charles if you're on I-10 for Rabideaux Sausage


I usually use the venison/pork, it's smokey as hell, holds up really well. and like mentioned above, brown all your meats, or at least your sausage first.
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